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Location: Dundee, Scotland, UK
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Re: Starship Farragut: The Animated Episodes Questions
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Commodore
Location: Ga.
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Re: Starship Farragut: The Animated Episodes Questions
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Location: UK
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Re: Starship Farragut: The Animated Episodes Questions
) - I really liked seeing the cartoon Faragut - especially the shot of it orbiting Saturn. The characters look great. The story is interesting and I look forward to downloading the next act. Congratulations!
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Location: Defying Gravity
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Re: Starship Farragut: The Animated Episodes Questions
As directed by Meyer and delivered by Nimoy, it's a great and effective line: terse, efficient but with an edge of alarm at the unexpected in the middle of a tactical disaster. Part of the ratcheting-up of the tension in that scene.
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Lieutenant Commander
Location: Portland, OR
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Re: Starship Farragut: The Animated Episodes Questions
Also, I would like to thank everyone that posted positive comments on TrekMovie. However, I wasn't just looking for postitives; I also appreciate the constructive criticisms we were given. I think everyone will see an improvement in Act 2 and 3 of this episode. Also, I have gone through the next episode, and feel the voice work is even better than this episode. We are going to spend a bit more time concentrating on that as we go forward. |
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Lieutenant Commander
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Re: Starship Farragut: The Animated Episodes Questions
Congrats to you and the gang on a job well done. Don't listen to the rants, keep doing what you do, because you love it. That is the only real reason to keep on doing these things. Best, James Cawley |
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Location: Ga.
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Re: Starship Farragut: The Animated Episodes Questions
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Lieutenant Commander
Location: Portland, OR
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Re: Starship Farragut: The Animated Episodes Questions
Thanks for the kind words! |
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Location: USS Lollipop
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Location: Maurice in San Francisco
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Re: Starship Farragut: The Animated Episodes Questions
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Lieutenant Commander
Location: Portland, OR
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Re: Starship Farragut: The Animated Episodes Questions
Update: I spoke with the writer and it is indeed correct as he understands the 'heading system'. He points out two resources that go into detail of what the numbers mean. Suprisingly, 360 is not a complete circle in the Trek Universe. Anyway, here are the resources: http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Heading http://www.fastcopyinc.com/orionpres..._in_star_t.htm Last edited by NEO f/x; July 29 2009 at 06:29 PM. |
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Rear Admiral
Location: Maurice in San Francisco
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Re: Starship Farragut: The Animated Episodes Questions
I just ignore the over 360 numbers as boo-boos on the level of Kirk's "one to the tenth power" gaffe. And I know it's after TOS/TAS, but there's a very clear 360 degree system used in TWOK on the tactical display... And I have photos of the astrogator from the TOS bridge at it's got 360 degree markings as well.
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Vice Admiral
Location: None Given
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Re: Starship Farragut: The Animated Episodes Questions
At least you guys haven't done the 'random background at wierd angles behind the character as he speaks' yet; and I honestly hope you never do. Also, as someone who;s done and directed voice over, I would hope the VO director does a little more work with the Captain as sometmes he lacks energy and very occassionally sounded more lie he was reading a line then speaking it. VO acting is a bit different then 'regular' acting; but overall, I was impressed with a majority of the cast's work. (And I hope you don't take any of the above as a 'swipe'; the work that's been done to date has been good, but I think there's always room for improvement if people are willing). Looking forward to part II. |
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Rear Admiral
Location: Maurice in San Francisco
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Re: Starship Farragut: The Animated Episodes Questions
In many ways voice work is harder than regular acting because everything has to be communicated through the voice, and that isn't just inflection. What a lot of people forget is that when you are moving around you get out of breath, and you talk differently. Moving also effects the way your voice sounds. Orson Welles understood this. When he was rerecording dialog for the sleigh ride scenes in The Magnificent Ambersons he sat the actors on the end of a board and he sat on the other end and bounced them to get the correct shake in their voices. I had the rare privilege of directing a bunch of name voice actors for a video game around xmas 2000, including Jim Cummings, Billy West, and Janet Waldo, and it was interesting to see how often they would stand and ACT as opposed to just sitting on a stool and read their lines. In fact, and a worthwhile story to tell, initially Janet Waldo was having problems getting the voice of Penelope Pitstop right (a role she originated). The line was simply "Bye, y'all!" but it didn't sound right. At first we worried she couldn't do the voice any more after 30 years, but, finally, I told her from the booth, "Janet, you're not saying, 'bye bye', you're actually saying 'eat my dust' as you blast by them." Well, on the very next take she swung her arm in a dismissive wave and called out, "Bye, y'all!" in exactly the right way. The voice was there! The voice came back precisely because she was ACTING and not READING.
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Lieutenant Commander
Location: Portland, OR
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Re: Starship Farragut: The Animated Episodes Questions
![]() As for 'visually' putting in mistakes, I won't do that either (for the most part). The one thing that was apparent from the original Filmation stuff was that people were not working on this in a linear fashion. For example, if someone was working on Kirk in the conference room with a blue wall, someone else might be working on a different angle with a green wall. Since we have a smaller team putting this together (and that it is digital), any 'errors' that pop up can be corrected without wasting 'film'. There are 'little' things I have done to make sure we are consistent within a certain realm. To do this right would mean starting from scratch and having a defined color scheme for not only the characters (which we have), but for the backgrounds (not so much...we reprovision many TAS backgrounds). The 'scope' of this is like finding a cave in 2009 of the original Filmation artists and cels and saying 'let's make a spinoff of Star Trek...similar ship, different crew". With this being the digital age, we have a lot of advanatages, but still want to maintain that same look. And yeah...we have had a few comments about the voice work. I think my choice of releasing only the first act compounded that issue; since people couldn't really concentrate on the whole story they instead focused on the captain's voice. This is not to say he is doing a fantastic job...he admits there is always room for improvement. I think the standing recommendation and simply 'acting' the lines instead of just reading them will go a long way to improving this. Will it be perfect...no. He is a VP of some government contractor...not a voice actor. But I would expect as the full episode is released and the next one, we will see people looking at this as a whole and finding a bit of 'charm' in it.
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) - I really liked seeing the cartoon Faragut - especially the shot of it orbiting Saturn. The characters look great. The story is interesting and I look forward to downloading the next act. Congratulations!
I think my choice of releasing only the first act compounded that issue; since people couldn't really concentrate on the whole story they instead focused on the captain's voice. This is not to say he is doing a fantastic job...he admits there is always room for improvement. I think the standing recommendation and simply 'acting' the lines instead of just reading them will go a long way to improving this. Will it be perfect...no. He is a VP of some government contractor...not a voice actor. But I would expect as the full episode is released and the next one, we will see people looking at this as a whole and finding a bit of 'charm' in it.




