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Old June 14 2008, 05:36 AM   #46
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Re: Earth

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Maybe Earth is heaven and you have to die to get there?

Here's a picture....

http://img406.imageshack.us/my.php?i...nbridgeyx0.jpg
Oh, OK, NOW I see it, lol, yep, pretty much says it right there, that's the NYC skyline.
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Old June 14 2008, 05:54 AM   #47
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Things that make me think this might not be "Earth" as in "our" Earth:
  • As mentioned, they seemed to be quite intentionally obscuring any clear shots of land masses, as opposed to the Earth we see in "Crossroads Part II", where we can clearly see the Florida peninsula.
  • We don't see the moon, again, in contrast to "Crossroads", something that would conclusively determine that this is indeed "our" Earth.
  • The "hyper-realness" of the entire sequence. The planet is almost too blue. The entire mood as soon as they arrive is just sort of surreal. And it's not just that it's optimistic. They've done optimistic scenes before, and they didn't have this whole weird vibe to them.
  • Eick's comments in an interview, something to the effect of "well, we've seen Earth, and we'll see the Fleet getting to a place that they call Earth", or something like that, where he seemed to be choosing his words very carefully (there's a link posted somewhere to this interview, I forget what thread it's in. Maybe this one! I'm tired.)
  • The Pythian prophecy that the "dying leader" would not survive the journey to Earth. Roslin's standing there right with everyone else. So either Roslin's not the dying leader (then who is?), or that's not Earth, or the prophecy is wrong, despite being right about pretty much everything else.
I'm just saying it's possible that this is not the end of the line. As to what that means for season 4.5? Who the frak knows?
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Old June 14 2008, 06:08 AM   #48
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I think it's Earth, the real Earth, and the explanation is simple:

The Earth is the home of the 13th tribe. They are probably descendants of the First Cylons, which are from Kobol, the gods.

The Children of the Gods had their own War of the Gods. The Five are the survivors and could even be what remains of the gods themselves.

But there is a division among the Five. IMO, like the Cylons and Humans from the Colonies had to work together to get to Earth, the Four and the Fifth worked together to survive, but, deep down, if the Four were to get back all their memories, there would be a division.

So, it's still unclear which of the Five were on which side. It's also unclear what the Virtual Models are. IMO, they are manifestations of "God," and they are the "Count Ibilis" figure in nuBSG. Probably, one side took its side and the other took the other side.
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Old June 14 2008, 06:22 AM   #49
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Post-apocalyptic NYC. Been there. Done that.
I know, but I was still expecting to see a ruined Stature of Liberty in the final pan!
If they go that route, however, there better be some damned dirty apes!
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Old June 14 2008, 06:34 AM   #50
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Don't the prophecies talk about a promise land? Perhaps the planet we saw at the end of season 3 is the promised land and the one they landed on in Revelations was Earth?
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Old June 14 2008, 06:42 AM   #51
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I wonder if they knew before they landed on Earth that no one is there. I mean, they have planetary sensors, don't they? Probably the lack of communication and ships had to have tipped them off.
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Old June 14 2008, 06:49 AM   #52
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Yes, I wondered that myself. I've got a feeling that this will be of those "Special RDM Editions" when it makes it to DVD, eg. there's a lot on the cutting room floor.

At a guess, there's probably scenes of Adama having Tigh arrested in his quarters, Lee finding Adama in his quarters, and a scene where they try to hail the planet and get no response, so they decide to land.

Of course, this whole scenario makes me bring up the question I brought up a few months ago: What exactly were they planning on doing when they arrived anyway? I mean, did they just expect to show up and say, "Hey we're the remains of the 12 colonies, and we're here to make a home with you all?"
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Old June 14 2008, 06:57 AM   #53
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My only firm belief is that it is indeed Earth (I really feel like it'll be a cop out otherwise). Everything else is game.

And sorry, but I don't see the NYC thing.
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Old June 14 2008, 07:01 AM   #54
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Well, if you view the Statue of Liberty as Aurora, then "The Temple of Aurora" could be a reference to the Statue of Liberty and the Ellis Island facilities. I don't think the ruins look like NYC, other than the idea of standing on an island and looking out on a large city, but I do think that viewing Ellis Island and the Statue as the Temple is a legitimate possibility. So, if that's where they were standing, then they'd be at NYC.
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Old June 14 2008, 07:03 AM   #55
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My only firm belief is that it is indeed Earth (I really feel like it'll be a cop out otherwise). Everything else is game.

And sorry, but I don't see the NYC thing.
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Old June 14 2008, 07:08 AM   #56
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My only firm belief is that it is indeed Earth (I really feel like it'll be a cop out otherwise). Everything else is game.

And sorry, but I don't see the NYC thing.
http://img406.imageshack.us/my.php?i...nbridgeyx0.jpg
I saw that up thread and, sure, it looks a little similar but it could just as easily be anywhere else. Not that it particularly matters to me in the end.

Would be cool if they landed in Russia, though.
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Old June 14 2008, 07:14 AM   #57
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It's not Earth - it's planet Miri.
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Old June 14 2008, 07:34 AM   #58
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My first thought was San Francisco and the Bay Bridge, and despite that little posted picture that kinda sorta intends to "prove" its New York, I could almost certainly come up with a similar comparison that would "prove" it to be Bay Area, California. Or any number of places, really.
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Old June 14 2008, 07:53 AM   #59
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My first thought was San Francisco and the Bay Bridge, and despite that little posted picture that kinda sorta intends to "prove" its New York, I could almost certainly come up with a similar comparison that would "prove" it to be Bay Area, California. Or any number of places, really.
I agree, just looking at other bridges.

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/8...ridgecoov0.jpg
oh look it's really Cincinnati!

I think the bridge in the ruins looks too thick to the be the Brooklyn Bridge, but what might have happened is effects people often use things as bases for when they create something.

So it's possible that they did use that shot of the Brooklyn Bridge going into NYC to develop the ruins. It does not mean this is NYC or our Earth, we just need to wait and see on everything else.
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Old June 14 2008, 07:57 AM   #60
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Maybe they've actually landed on Skaro - leading to a run-in with the Daleks!
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