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Old June 5 2008, 10:27 AM   #1
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Tom Cruise=Damaged Commodity

Tom Cruises's latest endeavor "Valkyrie" is yet another title which I find compelling, but I am at the same time repulsed by because of the fact that it showplaces a cultist.

I would love to learn more about the man who planted a bomb that could have rid us of the scourge of Adolpf Hitler.

The fact that a delusional person like Cruise would try to take on the mantle of a true free-thinker is very saddening.

Hopefully, this film will be one day remade by people who aren't part of a cult.
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Old June 5 2008, 11:10 AM   #2
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Re: Tom Cruise=Damaged Commodity

This couldn't have been posted in the current Valkyrie thread because...why, exactly?

I say, if you're interested in the story, just go and see the movie. Forget the fact that Tom Cruise is in it, since he bothers you so much. See it for Brian Singer, Kenneth Branagh, Bill Nighy, and Eddie Izzard.
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Old June 5 2008, 11:29 AM   #3
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Skywalker wrote: View Post
This couldn't have been posted in the current Valkyrie thread because...why, exactly?

I say, if you're interested in the story, just go and see the movie. Forget the fact that Tom Cruise is in it, since he bothers you so much. See it for Brian Singer, Kenneth Branagh, Bill Nighy, and Eddie Izzard.
BECAUSE I AM ME AND I AM SPECIAL AND I WILL NOT BOW TO AN ONGOING THREAD. XENU WOULD BURN ME IF I FOLLOWED YOUR ADVICE.
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Old June 5 2008, 11:46 AM   #4
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Master of Tarquin Hill wrote: View Post
Skywalker wrote: View Post
This couldn't have been posted in the current Valkyrie thread because...why, exactly?

I say, if you're interested in the story, just go and see the movie. Forget the fact that Tom Cruise is in it, since he bothers you so much. See it for Brian Singer, Kenneth Branagh, Bill Nighy, and Eddie Izzard.
BECAUSE I AM ME AND I AM SPECIAL AND I WILL NOT BOW TO AN ONGOING THREAD. XENU WOULD BURN ME IF I FOLLOWED YOUR ADVICE.
Obsess, much?
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Old June 5 2008, 01:06 PM   #5
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Hopefully, this film will be one day remade by people who aren't part of a cult.
Like the cult of those who obsess over the private lives of people they don't know?
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Old June 5 2008, 02:57 PM   #6
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What about the other actors? The director? Writer? Cinematographer? Soundtrack artists? Crew?

Do they not deserve your time or money? Is their work and product automatically inferior just because of the politics and beliefs of one of their coworkers?

Cruise has lots of money. He doesn't need any more, and your ticket sale won't help him any bit at all. But the others do need it. If you want people to make well-written, well-produced product, you need to support it with the vote of your dollar.
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Old June 5 2008, 04:46 PM   #7
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Re: Tom Cruise=Damaged Commodity

Oh gee, well Tom Cruise isn't a hitman either, yet amazingly he did a good job playing one in Collateral.

This must be that thing they call "acting".
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Old June 5 2008, 05:19 PM   #8
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And he always plays straight men so convincingly.


Wow.......he REALLY is a GOOD actor!!!
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Old June 5 2008, 05:44 PM   #9
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Re: Tom Cruise=Damaged Commodity

Master of Tarquin Hill wrote: View Post
I would love to learn more about the man who planted a bomb that could have rid us of the scourge of Adolpf Hitler.

If you're really interested about Operation Walküre go find a good history book since all i've heard about the movie is that it's the "hollywoodized" version of it (think U 571).
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Old June 6 2008, 12:09 PM   #10
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Yep, those people weren't fighting for democracy at all. They simply wanted Hitler out of the picture, win the war and establish a military dictatorship in Germany.

Heroes my shiny German ass.
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Old June 7 2008, 02:55 AM   #11
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Didn't the conspirators think that Hitler was destroying Germany and they wanted to save their country. They considered themselves patriots. Democracy didn't really enter into it and I don't think anyone here mentioned democracy anyway. Hollywood makes movies to make money, not to be historically accurate. They'll change historical facts to make the story more dramatic, so if you want to learn more about a historical event, you'd be better off reading about it from different sources.

And I don't see anything wrong with saying that scientology is a cult either.
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Old June 7 2008, 04:07 AM   #12
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Just buy a used copy of it when it comes out on DVD.
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Old June 7 2008, 05:07 AM   #13
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And I don't see anything wrong with saying that scientology is a cult either.
Indeed, the German government does.
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Old June 7 2008, 07:56 AM   #14
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Re: Tom Cruise=Damaged Commodity

Master of Tarquin Hill wrote: View Post
Tom Cruises's latest endeavor "Valkyrie" is yet another title which I find compelling, but I am at the same time repulsed by because of the fact that it showplaces a cultist.

I would love to learn more about the man who planted a bomb that could have rid us of the scourge of Adolpf Hitler.

The fact that a delusional person like Cruise would try to take on the mantle of a true free-thinker is very saddening.

Hopefully, this film will be one day remade by people who aren't part of a cult.
Your inability to separate Tom Cruise's character in the movie from his real life personality is your failing, not his.
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Old June 7 2008, 05:14 PM   #15
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I feel like discriminating against Cruise for his beliefs is as dispicable as any other kind of discrimination. As far as I know, scientologist are not hurting anyone, so why should I care? Cruise is a great actor.
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