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Old December 13 2009, 11:39 PM   #466
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Re: Deck Plans VI: The Undiscovered Bowling Alley

The only thing I'm wrestling with at the moment is Auxiliary Control. We've got a fairly explicit reference to it being on Deck 8 in "I, Mudd" (at a point in the show where they started paying more attention to this stuff), but that puts it right about where I wanted to put the forward Phaser Control room. I also don't like putting that low in the hull.

As for "Deck 9", that's where I'm squeezing in the phaser and photon torpedo machinery.

Oh well....
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Old December 16 2009, 09:12 PM   #467
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Re: Deck Plans VI: The Undiscovered Bowling Alley

About to have a new cross section ready, just as soon as the other computer gets freed up.

Y'see, since this one is an older, memory starved, little putt-putt, I've been doing most of the work on another computer, which is currently being used by another family member for such essential functions as catching up on the latest celebrity gossip.

Stay tuned.
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Old December 16 2009, 09:18 PM   #468
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Re: Deck Plans VI: The Undiscovered Bowling Alley

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About to have a new cross section ready, just as soon as the other computer gets freed up.

Y'see, since this one is an older, memory starved, little putt-putt, I've been doing most of the work on another computer, which is currently being used by another family member for such essential functions as catching up on the latest celebrity gossip.

Stay tuned.
Nice to hear there's finally some visual progress on this project, CRA! Can't wait to see it.
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Old December 16 2009, 09:24 PM   #469
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Re: Deck Plans VI: The Undiscovered Bowling Alley

A big factor has been Shaw making sufficient progress with his survey of the eleven footer. Things can only go up from here, methinks.
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Old December 17 2009, 06:49 PM   #470
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I'm gonna have to redo that pic, since it looks like I didn't save it, for whatever reason (I think I wanted to confirm the overall dimensions of the ship first, including the nacelles).
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Old December 19 2009, 07:45 AM   #471
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Here we go, at least until Shaw comes up with something a bit more final...



Not sure what it's supposed to prove, but doesn't it look kinda freaky?
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Old December 19 2009, 11:13 AM   #472
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Aagghh! The Defiant is returning from interphase - on top of us!!!


I agree - freaky, but I like it.

Just out of interest, what was your original pattern for the ship - the Sinclair plans?
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Old December 20 2009, 12:16 AM   #473
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Yuppers. Reportedly, they're more on the mark than the Casamiro plans, but now that Shaw's about finished with his drawings...
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Old December 20 2009, 08:48 PM   #474
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Really, I always thought that the Casimiro plans were more reliable - I forget who said that, it was either Shaw or Cary
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Old December 20 2009, 09:17 PM   #475
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Does this suggest there were 9 decks in the saucer, rather than 8?
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Old December 21 2009, 03:55 AM   #476
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Casamiro's look better, that's for sure, and there are certain parts where his are more on the mark than Sinclair's, but overall, Sinclair seemed to get more right than Casamiro; to a certain extent, though, we're talking six of one, half dozen of another.

The hope is that Shaw's plans get it all correct and those of us who do this sort of thing can get a little closer to what would actually work inside that hull.
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Old December 21 2009, 09:55 AM   #477
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Ahem to that! My first set of enterprise deck plans (back in the 90's) were based on the drawings in the AMT instructions!
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Old December 21 2009, 04:06 PM   #478
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Re: Deck Plans VI: The Undiscovered Bowling Alley

i was always under the impression that Mr. Sinclair was actually able to spend 1 on 1 time with the model itself, with calipers and a tape measure.

either way, i do like Casimiro's 3d version, but being an old drafter & engineer i just love Sincair's 2d dwg more :P
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Old December 21 2009, 08:18 PM   #479
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The only person who's been able to do actual measurements of the model is Gary Kerr. Everyone else's is based upon observation from a distance; at best, looking at it in its display case at the Smithsonian for extended periods, at worst, analyzing footage and still photos, with all results depending on the availability of accurate figures and ability of the respective analyst in extrapolating more detailed measurements from there.
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Old December 21 2009, 10:36 PM   #480
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Here we go, at least until Shaw comes up with something a bit more final...



Not sure what it's supposed to prove, but doesn't it look kinda freaky?


I wish I had this larger size and clearer.
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