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Old April 29 2008, 01:37 PM   #31
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Re: SPOILERS..My thoughts on Spock Must Die!

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Getting back on SMD!...if any current Trek writers are reading this, you should try to work in a reference to "canonize" it in a way. Make some mention of Spock getting duplicated, and more importantly, explain how the Klingons escaped their exile.

That would kick ass.
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That first issue bore such a resemblance to the actual show that it featured Yeoman Rand, complete with her beehive hairdo, which the colorist apparantly thought was some strange hat, and so colored red throughout the course of the issue.
To be fair, it would've been less strange as a hat than it was as a hairdo...
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Old April 30 2008, 05:16 AM   #32
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That first issue bore such a resemblance to the actual show that it featured Yeoman Rand, complete with her beehive hairdo, which the colorist apparantly thought was some strange hat, and so colored red throughout the course of the issue.
To be fair, it would've been less strange as a hat than it was as a hairdo...
Sure, it could be a bit more believable to say that was a flat sort of a fez, but wouldn't have helped the aesthetic much. (I think the aesthetic was pretty much a lost cause in the first place.)
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Old April 30 2008, 02:49 PM   #33
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^^I think the colorist of Gold Key ST #1 was interpreting the shape atop Rand's head as a woolen cap, not unlike that worn by Mike Nesmith of The Monkees. Those are often red.
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Old April 30 2008, 09:44 PM   #34
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I always thought it was weird how in the many of the Gold Key comics, Kirk's shirt was colored orange, while Sulu and Chekov's were colored green - even though the TV versions were the same color.
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^^I think the colorist of Gold Key ST #1 was interpreting the shape atop Rand's head as a woolen cap, not unlike that worn by Mike Nesmith of The Monkees. Those are often red.
I have a colouring book where the tracing of Christine Chapel's uniform collar and Enterprise insignia are rendered as if it were a low-slung scarf with a knotted end, the tails lining up with where the two "legs" of the Delta shield shape would be.
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Old May 2 2008, 06:11 PM   #36
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Getting back on SMD!...if any current Trek writers are reading this, you should try to work in a reference to "canonize" it in a way. Make some mention of Spock getting duplicated, and more importantly, explain how the Klingons escaped their exile.

That would kick ass.
A later Bantam short stories anthology written by Blish' wife (I don't remember the title just now), included a Harry Mudd story were the Enterprise ends going back in time six months, to terminate Harry's last scheme before it started. If we accept these two books as parts of the same "timeline" then Kirk could have also tipped the Organians about the Klingon plan before they executed it.
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Old May 2 2008, 10:24 PM   #37
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I'm not sure if it was necessary that I post a spoiler warning for a book almost 4 decades old. I sure thought it would be a hoot, though.

Anyway, it was a good read. My Dad just gave me a bunch of books that were his back in the 70s. SMD! being the first of them that I read. The first thing that strikes me about it (and the others) is how short it is. Only 118 pages in this book. I was able to breeze right through it. The story itself was solid with only a few gripes. My biggest problem with the book really had nothing to do with the story, but with Scotty. I don't think Mr. Blish did a very good job capturing Scotty's accent. It was nae impossible for me to read at times, and (to me anyway) seemed to come of almost more Irish than Scottish.

I like the idea of two Spocks, and how they argued and such. I was just surprised with all the other reference that were in the book (which were amusingly marked with asterisks) that Kirk's split into two by the transporter wasn't mentioned.

After I finished reading the book, I looked it up online. According to Memory Alpha, it was the first novel with an original story (as opposed to novelizations) aimed at adults. With that in mind, it certainly was an interesting choice to condem the Klingons to their homeworld for a 1000 years. Personally, I would have left more room for future use in sequals.

So what did everyone else think SMD!?
I love this book and it remains my favourite Star Trek novel. Primarily because it feels like a genuine TOS story. It also nails the fact that if you write well you can have a complete and full story that isn't padded out to a freaking 500 pages.

I agree that Scotty's accent was wrong. He'd have been better off just writing Scotty's dialogue straight with only the occasional spelling variation to suggest an accent.

If Blish had known Star Trek would have developed such a huge following (this was 1970) then he may not have exiled the Klingons.

That said several years ago friends and I wrote a collection of TOS flavoured stories that explain how the Klingons are reprieved. After all, hey, they have to be free to be around for TMP. (-: We kind of accepted SMD as the 80th TOS episode never aired.

I wrote a particular story called The Exiled which dealt with Kor, Kang and Koloth on a Klingon homeworld descended into barbarism and civil war. Kor reflects on the attack upon the Federation, the taking of starposts, the destruction of the starship Constitution and a humiliating Klingon defeat at Starbase 16. Kor is reflecting on his peoples' plight when he is visited by Ayelborne the Organian who suggests that the Klingons do have a slim chance at a parole.

One of the neat things about SMD is that not only is it a good Star Trek story, but it's a decent science fiction story as well. Not surprising because Blish was a solid and respected SF author. And I think it could have made for a wonderful Star Trek film.

I even did some photomanips to create scenes suggested in the book.
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Old May 4 2008, 06:28 AM   #38
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Was it said in the book that one Spock wore gold? I don't recall.
I do remember them saying that duplicate Spock's uniform was probably reversed when he appeared. I find it hard to believe that nobody would have picked up on that right away.
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Old May 4 2008, 06:38 AM   #39
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Wow.

Is this another case of the early writers of Trek media tie-ins not having full information about the series? Specifically, "Our Heroes do not commit genocide on a planetary scale"? Damn.

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Isn't there a Starfleet General Order which contains instructions to destroy an entire planet's surface unless the order is countermanded within a specific period of time?

And of course there's the Omega Directive to consider as well.
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Old May 4 2008, 01:45 PM   #40
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I do remember them saying that duplicate Spock's uniform was probably reversed when he appeared. I find it hard to believe that nobody would have picked up on that right away.
That was addressed in the book. They were just so distracted by the existence of two Spocks that they didn't think to notice such minor details as insignia position. People tend to see what they expect to see.
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Re: SPOILERS..My thoughts on Spock Must Die!

I remember them addressing it. I just found it hard to believe. If you have 2 Spock, and right away one is you know one must be a duplicate, then a backwards uniform would be obvious I think. From my time in the military, I can tell you that improper uniforms don't go unnoticed easily. At the very least, original Spock would have noticed and used it to support his claim.
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Old May 5 2008, 12:20 AM   #42
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Wow.

Is this another case of the early writers of Trek media tie-ins not having full information about the series? Specifically, "Our Heroes do not commit genocide on a planetary scale"? Damn.

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^^I think the colorist of Gold Key ST #1 was interpreting the shape atop Rand's head as a woolen cap, not unlike that worn by Mike Nesmith of The Monkees. Those are often red.

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