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Old April 24 2008, 04:39 AM   #151
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Though it does seem lame and arbitrary to give authors a lower royalty for the simple virtue of their books being printed in a format other than HC.
It's not. Royalties are a percentage of the book's cover price. Paperbacks have lower cover prices than hardcovers. Nothing "arbitrary" about it at all.
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Old April 24 2008, 04:44 AM   #152
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My one question is....If KRAD is the most popular author here how come he has not yet been given a hardcover release?
Because trends here don't necessarily reflect wider sales/popularity, and because there's more to the decision-making process with regard to hardcovers than just the popularity of the author.
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Old April 24 2008, 04:53 AM   #153
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Like KRAD himself says: "Don't mistake a few fans praising on the internet for any kind of trend"

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Old April 24 2008, 04:53 AM   #154
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Because trends here don't necessarily reflect wider sales/popularity, and because there's more to the decision-making process with regard to hardcovers than just the popularity of the author.
True Brendan but from what I can gather KRAD is way more popular that Peter David and yet David has had several HC releases. It makes no sense to me. I vote for KRAD to be the next HC released author and Shatner be damned!

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Old April 24 2008, 04:58 AM   #155
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Just out of curiosity what do you base the statement about KRAD being more popular than Peter David on? Nothing against KRAD (he is one of my favorite authors in any and every genre), but Peter David has had several books on the New York Times Bestsellers List, and - as sad as it may be - KRAD hasn't.
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Old April 24 2008, 04:59 AM   #156
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Old April 24 2008, 05:12 AM   #157
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If KRAD is the most popular author here how come he has not yet been given a hardcover release?
Because being the most popular author here is rather like being the most popular person on the floor of your apartment building. It's nice, but it doesn't really mean much outside your apartment building.

I do appreciate the kudos from folks hereabouts, truly, but it's a drop in the proverbial bucket. Peter has more hardcover releases because a) he's been doing this a lot longer than I have, b) has built (and, honestly, earned) a huge fan base while doing so, and c) has appeared on the New York Times best-seller list more than once, something I've never managed.

And since Pocket is cutting back on their hardcover releases, the likelihood that my next hardcover will be a Trek novel is slim.
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Old April 24 2008, 05:25 AM   #158
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Because being the most popular author here is rather like being the most popular person on the floor of your apartment building. It's nice, but it doesn't really mean much outside your apartment building.
Hilarious!

And since Pocket is cutting back on their hardcover releases, the likelihood that my next hardcover will be a Trek novel is slim.
In earlier times, I could see the final book of "A Time..." deserving of a hardcover, but many people seemed really annoyed by "NF: Excalibur: Restoration" and "Gateways: What Lay Beyond" finishing up MMPB mini-series with hardcover finales.
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Old April 24 2008, 05:33 AM   #159
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Though it does seem lame and arbitrary to give authors a lower royalty for the simple virtue of their books being printed in a format other than HC.
It's not. Royalties are a percentage of the book's cover price. Paperbacks have lower cover prices than hardcovers. Nothing "arbitrary" about it at all.
I had no doubt that there was some rationale in place, but my comment was solely in reference to Therin's statement that HC authors receive higher royalties, the criterion for that division wasn't readily apparent to me.

I made no claim that there was no reason to the system, only that it was not obvious to me. Even now, the selection process for which books are produced in hardcover, thereby providing the author the opportunity for greater royalty earnings, are unclear and seemingly arbitrary to me.
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Old April 24 2008, 05:42 AM   #160
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my comment was solely in reference to Therin's statement that HC authors receive higher royalties, the criterion for that division wasn't readily apparent to me.
I seem to recall John Ordover saying that not only was the cover price being percentaged higher, but that the percentage itself was slightly higher than for MMPB, too.
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Old April 24 2008, 07:16 AM   #161
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And since Pocket is cutting back on their hardcover releases, the likelihood that my next hardcover will be a Trek novel is slim.
Well, at least now you're on equal footing with PAD because I don't foresee any Trek hardcovers from him either in the near future if ever again. Granted he has developed a following but it seems as if the faithful are becoming less and less these days at least in Trekdom. I also think you're more popular than you give yourself credit for KRAD. I mean am I mistaken or are you getting to where you will have more Trek books than PAD here very soon?

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Old April 24 2008, 07:30 AM   #162
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I mean am I mistaken or are you getting to where you will have more Trek books than PAD here very soon?
Hardly. I've written 14, and Peter has me beat with NF novels alone, with 20 more besides that. If you count other Trek stories, yeah, I've written more eBooks and we're about even in short stories, but I've got literally years to go before I'll even come close to matching Peter's comic book output.
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Old April 24 2008, 02:39 PM   #163
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I don't foresee any Trek hardcovers from him either in the near future if ever again.
It's my understanding his last three "New Frontier" hardcovers sold extremely well. Why would Pocket suddenly go back to doing NF as MMPB?
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Old April 24 2008, 02:49 PM   #164
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^I'm not sure but doesn't he have a contract for three hardcovers anyway, of which only two were published yet? Or am I misremembering something?
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Old April 24 2008, 02:52 PM   #165
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^ Generally -- though not always -- the contract doesn't specify what format the book will be published in.
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