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Old February 8 2009, 04:47 PM   #1291
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Re: (UEFA) Football Thread - Football not Soccer

So conflicted. We really needed those three points against Spurs, but all things considered a draw wasn't a bad result.
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Old February 8 2009, 08:00 PM   #1292
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I see the Charlton game has been called off this afternoon. Interestingly, that actually increases their chances of winning a football match today, they're so bad.
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Cardiff are mounting up too many games to make up for my liking. Championship sides just cannot play Saturday-Wednesday-Saturday-Wednesday 2 or 3 weeks in a row with any particular consistency. And right now would be a perfect time to play Charlton, because all the sides around us are dropping points like there's no tomorrow. Same with the postponed Derby game - if we'd played that last month it would have been great. Now Gary Teale is going to fuck us up!
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Old February 8 2009, 08:01 PM   #1293
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So conflicted. We really needed those three points against Spurs, but all things considered a draw wasn't a bad result.
Apparently, if a defender wants the ball a striker has to get out of the way.
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Old February 8 2009, 11:49 PM   #1294
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StolenThunder wrote: View Post
I see the Charlton game has been called off this afternoon. Interestingly, that actually increases their chances of winning a football match today, they're so bad.
ahahahahahahha

Cardiff are mounting up too many games to make up for my liking. Championship sides just cannot play Saturday-Wednesday-Saturday-Wednesday 2 or 3 weeks in a row with any particular consistency. And right now would be a perfect time to play Charlton, because all the sides around us are dropping points like there's no tomorrow. Same with the postponed Derby game - if we'd played that last month it would have been great. Now Gary Teale is going to fuck us up!
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I'm really glad the Plymouth game went ahead yesterday (not just cos we won) we've had enough rearranged games of late...plus we've got to fit in playing Utd somewhere as well!
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Old February 9 2009, 12:47 AM   #1295
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Tony Adams is set to be fired tomorrow, it seems. I thought it was a mistake for him to take the Portsmouth job: he seems far more suited to coaching and assistant manager jobs.
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Old February 9 2009, 01:02 AM   #1296
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^ Not surprising, guess the only surprise is that he was given the job in the first place!

How often does assistant stepping up to manager at the same club work out?
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Old February 9 2009, 11:13 AM   #1297
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* Carlton Cole in the ENG squad shoot me now

* I understand why he picked Phil Jagielka but I would of done that in next friendly against easier opposition and called up Lescott instead.

* No point picking Hart since he finished at Man Ciuty and can't move till the summer so no football for him. I bet Pearce is fuming with Championships in summer, good for Joe Lewis though.

* Glen Johnson against Spain, what G.Neville fit and playing again not enough? great callup for L.Young hes on wonderful form.

* 5 wingers ? why...Mark Noble should get a callup.

* Carlton Cole again I'd rather of took 3 strikers actually or Andy Johnson
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Old February 9 2009, 11:50 AM   #1298
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Adams has my sympathy but equally he should never had the job to begin with. I'd like to see Avram Grant back now; arguably they should have approached him when Redknapp jumped ship in my opinion.
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Old February 9 2009, 12:29 PM   #1299
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^Nah, they'll give it to Curbs.
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Old February 9 2009, 01:09 PM   #1300
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They probably should have approached either of them when Redknapp left. I can understand the need for consistency, and the loyalty that comes along with giving the assistant the job (and maybe there is a cost element and they're seen as a cheaper option) but it rarely works out. If Adams wanted to try management again he'd have been better off doing it somwhere else.

I wonder if Kinear will soon be joining him? Anyone else find his 'health problems' a little convinient given the slating he's received from ex players of late? Having N'Zogbia slagging you off is one thing, but when a model pro like Given starts you have to wonder. I'm wondering if he's quietly retire for health reasons soon?
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Old February 9 2009, 01:37 PM   #1301
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^^ You've hit the nail on the head there mate, with the cost point.

Gaydamak's looking to sell up. They sold Diarra and Defoe in the window for near enough £30m. How much of that's been reinvested? It's clear that Gaydamak's got to the point now where he won't put any money in, he's just looking to get as much out as possible. With that in mind, I think it's fairly obvious how Adams got the job.

I don't know whether they'll go with Curbs or Grant, but I bet you cost will factor into it again.
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Old February 9 2009, 01:56 PM   #1302
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^Its a false economy though. Howwever cheap Adams was to hire, they've now got to pay up his contract and pay someone else to do the job. Plus the value of the club must plummet as it drops places in the league. Why are chairmen--usually experienced business men--often so stupid?
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Old February 9 2009, 02:58 PM   #1303
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Portsmouth's problems aren't Adams' fault. I strongly doubt that one of the best central defenders to kick a ball in the Premier League went to training one morning and said to Sol Campbell (also one of the best central defenders to kick a ball in this league), Sylvain Distin and the rest of the Pompey defenders "forget everything you know about defending and just play badly".

He's had, arguably, his two best players sold out from underneath him as well. Going forward against Liverpool they looked okay, it's just that they've forgotten how to defend.
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Old February 9 2009, 04:07 PM   #1304
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Shame about Adams, but as with Ince, he should never have been given the job. The cracks were appearing before Redknapp wisely jumped ship, even though a laboured FA Cup win papered over some of them.


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* Glen Johnson against Spain, what G.Neville fit and playing again not enough?
Well, no. Neville has lost his place in the United XI to a Brazilian kid. After his Arsenal performance, I don't think Capello is suicidal enough to play him against Santi Cazorla or David Silva. Besides, a Beckham-Neviller right side? Great in 1998, but these days you'd find more pace in an Eastbourne tea room.

It's a friendly, time to be giving the younger players experience without any pressure, not give Gary Neville another cap to stick on his mantlepiece.
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Old February 9 2009, 04:31 PM   #1305
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Portsmouth's problems aren't Adams' fault. I strongly doubt that one of the best central defenders to kick a ball in the Premier League went to training one morning and said to Sol Campbell (also one of the best central defenders to kick a ball in this league), Sylvain Distin and the rest of the Pompey defenders "forget everything you know about defending and just play badly".

He's had, arguably, his two best players sold out from underneath him as well. Going forward against Liverpool they looked okay, it's just that they've forgotten how to defend.
What it does say about Adams is that he was obviously having difficulty motivating and instilling confidence/self belief in the team.

As for those two best players sold out from under him, was he even playing Defoe?

I'm not suggesting he wouldn't have pulled it round given time, but time is a luxury Premiership managers don't seem to be afforded these days. It always did seem a curious appointment to me...wonder if Adams will try for another managerial job now or turn up at Spurs...
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