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Old September 2 2008, 09:22 PM   #661
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Because it's tired doesn't make it not valid.
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Old September 2 2008, 10:18 PM   #662
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I never said I was for an all-England team, nor did I suggest that there should be English players in the squad. I was merely trying to make a constructive point about Wenger's methods turning in profit through turnover & trophies.

You got the wrong end of the stick. Now you're accusing me of being something I'm not, because you chose to read between lines that simply weren't there. Maybe it wasn't hostility - just a super-defensive attitude.

Maybe you feel Wenger's methods haven't worked?
Your previous posts made reference to the number of foreigners in the Arsenal team. This is a particularly tired criticism of Arsenal.

If I misread your intentions then I apologise, but the criticism of our youth and transfer policies gets a bit old after a while.
It was not a criticsm.
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Old September 2 2008, 10:35 PM   #663
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Well, looks like Man City might go on a rampage. Sky Sports has the new sugar daddy speculating on a 135 million pound transfer of Christiano Ronaldo from Man U in January.

I wonder if Man U would resist if they threw that much money at them?

And apparently rumors of Keegan's demise have been greatly exaggerated. For now.
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Old September 2 2008, 10:57 PM   #664
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I can't believe how much man city paid for Robinho, not to sound bitter but he was little more than a 2rd rate winger who started mainly as a sub, he's good at the step overs it's just a shame by the time he's finished stepping over the defense is back and he's still no nearer to beating his man.

Still best of luck to the new future champions of England for like all eternity, I'm just glad Real don;t play in the same league as city as they are going to totally dominate English football once the Arabs start buying up everyone and offering crazy wages such as those now paid to Robinho.
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Old September 2 2008, 11:04 PM   #665
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£135m potential bid for Ronaldo? From City? I don't read the news for a couple of days and wake up to find all of football has gone mad.

With the prospect of City potentially buying its way into becoming one of the biggest clubs in the world, I can't imagine that well known England haters Blatter and Platini are pleased watching even more of the power and revenue swing to the English game. In fact, I'm willing to bet Platini's UEFA investigation based upon his opinion that clubs "cheat" when their books don't balance, will go into some sort of overdrive now that Mr. Al-Fahim seems to believe he is playing with Monopoly money.

Which is fine. I won't be sad to see the silly money out of football, particularly since Arsenal's financial house is in order.
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Old September 3 2008, 05:33 AM   #666
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I'm a little wary of Man CIty's sugar daddy, he mentioned trying to get Fabregas apparently. Cesc has stated his commitment to the club and I believe he's on contract till 2012, but if Mister Munny throws a cool 30 million Arsene's way...

Anyway, on a different topic, I've been wondering who on the Arsenal team could take up the mantle of captain eventually, I'm not a Gallas naysayer, but I also don't believe he's quite captain material. The other day during the match against Newcastle one of the commentators mentioned that he could see Clichy as a future Arsenal captain. Weird that it never hit me till then, but he almost always puts in a solid performance, always gives 110% and he almost never gets injured. Any thoughts?
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Old September 3 2008, 05:49 AM   #667
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I am always puzzled why Gallas was selected Capitan over Kolo Toure.
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Old September 3 2008, 06:25 AM   #668
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I am always puzzled why Gallas was selected Capitan over Kolo Toure.
Same, Toure would have been the more obvious choice. I dunno, maybe Arsene felt Gallas was more experienced, he is 31 compared to Toure's 27.
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Old September 3 2008, 08:19 AM   #669
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Because it's tired doesn't make it not valid.
No, its invalidity makes it invalid.

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I am always puzzled why Gallas was selected Capitan over Kolo Toure.
Same, Toure would have been the more obvious choice. I dunno, maybe Arsene felt Gallas was more experienced, he is 31 compared to Toure's 27.
Gallas is the most experienced member of the squad. I support him as Captain, but Kolo and eventually Cesc are good candidates too. The other choice is Gael Clichy who, despite his young age, is a strong voice in the dressing room and on the pitch.
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Old September 3 2008, 10:19 AM   #670
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Surely I'm not the only one who laughed himself blue in the face when he read the £135m Ronaldo bid? And then, just as the tears were finally drying, I read on and this crazy Arab is saying he's going to buy Fabregas AND Torres AND Berbatov AND Messi AND Kaka AND...

If stories like this are going to become common then Man City have made the media side of football a better place

King Kev is probably all about compensation now. Surely he can't go back after yesterday?
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Old September 3 2008, 10:33 AM   #671
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If it pisses off Platini and Blatter then I'm all for it.

As far as English football's concerned, it'll at least throw another team into the mix and it won't be the same four qualifying year in, year out. Looks like Arsenal and Liverpool might be vying for one CL spot going forward.

Perhaps we should just ask Platini/Blatter if we can have an extra CL spot now.....
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Old September 3 2008, 12:01 PM   #672
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Or better still, get rid of the fourth spot. It's ridiculous it's available to begin with.
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Old September 3 2008, 01:25 PM   #673
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Oh come on, sarcasm and hostility (with a touch of xenophobia) is all we Arsenal fans get from ENGLAND FIRST types who can't accept that it is not Arsenal's job to prepare players for the England team. Arsene Wenger's job is to win football matches for Arsenal, not England and if they were asked Benitez (who told Cappello where to go when scheduling Gerrard's surgery), Scolari and Ferguson would agree with him.
Spot on. The reason club v country rows are pointless is because club wins every time. Most fans I know couldn't care less about England. Nor could Ferguson, who routinely pulls his players out with phantom injuries. Then again, he is a Scot.

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Or better still, get rid of the fourth spot. It's ridiculous it's available to begin with.
Why? Spain and Italy get four.

The alternative is to go back to the less competitive format with more minnows getting thrashed by the likes of Madrid and Milan.
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Old September 3 2008, 01:26 PM   #674
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Surely I'm not the only one who laughed himself blue in the face when he read the £135m Ronaldo bid? And then, just as the tears were finally drying, I read on and this crazy Arab is saying he's going to buy Fabregas AND Torres AND Berbatov AND Messi AND Kaka AND...

If stories like this are going to become common then Man City have made the media side of football a better place
They offered Madrid a blank cheque for Van Nistelrooy of all people!
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Old September 3 2008, 02:01 PM   #675
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I think the whole point around the fourth spot is more along the lines of why should anyone but the Champions qualify anyway.

Gone are the days of the little teams having a decent run and winning the odd final. Nowadays it's rare that many of them make it through beyond the group stage. In fact, even looking at the group stages there are rarely many of them.

Instead, commercialism's taken hold and UEFA make sure that the format of the tournament is condusive to having the best supported teams there instead.

Personally, if that's what they're after I don't understand why they don't go the whole way and just form a European super league.
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