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Old May 25 2010, 05:01 PM   #2731
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The world cup thread is up and running so I guess this thread will be quiet for the next few weeks so I'll see you all in there. Once again great talking to all you lot over the last season and I can't believe this thread is still going after I started it back on...

April 1 2008 spawning off from the bi weekly threads I used to put up.

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Old May 25 2010, 06:22 PM   #2732
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Old May 26 2010, 12:49 PM   #2733
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The world cup thread is up and running so I guess this thread will be quiet for the next few weeks so I'll see you all in there. Once again great talking to all you lot over the last season and I can't believe this thread is still going after I started it back on...

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That's because of this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VF_uOgyBK1c

Always a pleasure. See you on the 11th.
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Old June 4 2010, 10:10 AM   #2734
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Well thought I'd perk this up again to mention that Rafa is leaving Liverpool. About time I think, amazed he's lasted this long. I just don't get the reaction of Liverpool fans who seem gutted. I mean I know he gave them the Champions league, but other than that and an FA cup what has he delivered? And it isn't like he hasn't spent shit loads of money with little end product.

Who do people think will get the job? The BBC were listing Mark Hughes and Hodgson as possibilities and I'd like to see either of them get it. Be nice to see a British manager get one of the top jobs for once...
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Old June 4 2010, 10:18 AM   #2735
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Hodgson would be an excellent choice imo, but does he have a high enough profile for that job? He's spent the overwhelming majority of his career managing smallish clubs in smallish leagues - by Premier League standards.
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Old June 4 2010, 10:23 AM   #2736
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Like Inter Milan?

You're right though, Malmo, Blackburn, Fulham...but having said that next year Liverpool will be a smaller team. Lack of funds, no Champions league football, a squad that clearly isn't good enough...frankly they could do with a man used to working and performing miracles on a budget!
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Old June 4 2010, 10:31 AM   #2737
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Yeah, Inter is the exception.

Btw he's still very highly regarded in Switzerland and basically credited with the impressive improvement of Swiss football - both the league and the national team - in the last decade.
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Old June 4 2010, 12:55 PM   #2738
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How about Pelligrini, just to pluck a name out of the air? Could certainly help him show Real Madrid they were wrong to let him go.

And let's be fair - they were.
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Old June 18 2010, 03:07 PM   #2739
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Well thought I'd perk this up again to mention that Rafa is leaving Liverpool. About time I think, amazed he's lasted this long. I just don't get the reaction of Liverpool fans who seem gutted. I mean I know he gave them the Champions league, but other than that and an FA cup what has he delivered? And it isn't like he hasn't spent shit loads of money with little end product.
A Champions League, another Champions League Final, an FA Cup and a couple of Community/Super Cups wins.

His total spend - £230m was over 6 seasons
His total recieved - £156m

So it works out at around £12.5m per year net - shit loads, eh?

Couple this with being lied to and undermined, having monies promised and then taken away, CEO's buying players against your wishes, owners going behind your back to meet other managers, owners putting the club £351m in debt - despite promising no debt on the club, etc etc etc...

I think he did a top job, taking over from Houllier's inept squad and making Liverpool a side to be respected in Europe and domestically once more.

Yes, things went wrong in the final season (injuries to key players, and having no money for adequate replacements), but the reason as to why many Liverpool fans are so upset that he has left is that he understood the fans, and made the club better than when he arrived.

We'll remember his overall record - not just this last season.
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Old July 17 2010, 11:56 AM   #2740
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Well with the World Cup behind us its time to look forward to the new season of football which begins next month. However I would like to put some ideas forward with changes that I feel should be made to football in the near future. We keep hearing about England excuses but there are flaws in our set up in Football so I was wodnering what you guys feel about these ideas...

* Premier League lowered to 18 teams

* Winter Break

* PL teams do not enter the FA cup till round 4.

* FA Cup replays scrapped after 5th round

* 5th Round and 1/8 final have single leg. Also No extra time for rounds 1-4 in replay legs.

* Semi Final and Final retain extra time before pens but with changes. 1st half of Extra time Silver Goal with 2nd half being Golden Goal, making Extra time more exciting and something different from the standard 90.

* League Cup rebranded for Football League only so no PL teams.

* Scrap the new rules about players from youth team and introduce a different rule stating 10 of your 25 squad must be eligible to play for England.

* Rule above would encourage more English players in academy anyway but also bring in rule stating 70% of Academy must be eligible to play for England.

* Pearce made full time ENG asst. manager with Paul Ince made U21 coach or 2nd choice Southgate...Given contract length till the 2013 Euro 21 championships.

* We need a European rule by UEFA with support from FIFA ideally about a wage cap.

* Also I feel you shouldn't be able to sign a mega deal till over 23, too many young players millionaires by 18-22 and lose hunger for game.

Just some ideas am sick of the weak FA we have and the ego of the PL who needs reminding of football is supposed to be about the game not £££. Also I personally love the idea of Silver/Golden Goal extra time split and feel it woudl add exictment if brought into all levels of the game.
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Old July 17 2010, 01:35 PM   #2741
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I don't think a winter break is a good idea for England. For starters it's not really necessary, is it? Sure sometimes it snows in England but it never really gets that cold. And it would compress the schedule so that the clubs have to play even more games in a short time than they do now (although some of your other points deal with that too).
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Old July 17 2010, 03:27 PM   #2742
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*insert mockery about the British weather* (I'm to lazy to find one myself).
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Old July 17 2010, 03:29 PM   #2743
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* Premier League lowered to 18 teams
No. 20 is fine. Lowering the number in it will just decrease the likelihood of new teams getting there and making a real fist of establishing themselves in it.

Winter Break
Yes. Sure, it doesn't get particularly cold too often, but the break itself is what's needed.

* PL teams do not enter the FA cup till round 4.
No. It's monopolised enough as it is, and the romance of the 3rd round draw is one of the vital parts of the competition.

* FA Cup replays scrapped after 5th round
Scrap them full-stop.

* Semi Final and Final retain extra time before pens but with changes. 1st half of Extra time Silver Goal with 2nd half being Golden Goal, making Extra time more exciting and something different from the standard 90.
That'll never happen. No one likes Golden Goal.

* League Cup rebranded for Football League only so no PL teams.
What, and have nothing more than a second Johnson's Paint Trophy with Champo teams in it? Last year proved the CC is the one thing that actually works and is growing in popularity. Leave it is as it is.

* Scrap the new rules about players from youth team and introduce a different rule stating 10 of your 25 squad must be eligible to play for England.

* Rule above would encourage more English players in academy anyway but also bring in rule stating 70% of Academy must be eligible to play for England.
I'll leave that to people who care about the England national team

* We need a European rule by UEFA with support from FIFA ideally about a wage cap.
Yes. Wage cap. Now.

I want full video-replays for all incidents. Have an extra official to monitor the same feed as Sky/BBC if needs be. Christ, let the 4th official do it, they don't do very much else do they? The sooner it comes in and everyone sees how good it is for the game the better.

I also want full implementation of rules ensuring only captains can talk to the referee. Book anyone who transgresses, send out anyone who comes barrelling shouting and screaming. Or waving imaginary cards. A few instances of that and show the players who's in charge. I'm loath to take much from rugby, but respect for the referee is one thing I would have, gladly.

Also stamp out diving. Difficult, yes. Video will help. Just for god's sake bring some modicum of discipline and sportsmanship back to the game. Oh, and rescind the rule that says it's a yellow for taking your top off when celebrating.

All of these things would be great. No doubt TPTB will instead ban goal celebrations in their entirety or something equally asinine.
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Old July 17 2010, 03:45 PM   #2744
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I want full video-replays for all incidents. Have an extra official to monitor the same feed as Sky/BBC if needs be. Christ, let the 4th official do it, they don't do very much else do they? The sooner it comes in and everyone sees how good it is for the game the better.
I agree, but I would still let the head referee make the final decision and it has to happen as close to real-time as possible. Like, have the 4th (or a 5th) referee watch the game on a monitor, give him radio contact with the head referee to tell him how he sees the situation in the replay. Sometimes a situation still isn't clear even with a hundred tv cameras in the stadium, so the head referee needs the authority to make the call in the end.
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Old July 18 2010, 02:24 PM   #2745
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^ Absolutely. That's how it works in tennis, rugby and, I think, cricket and it works well.
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