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Old December 8 2009, 12:31 PM   #2416
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^ I'll be kind we'll have a Cardiff vs. Forest playoff final at Wembley
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Old December 8 2009, 01:15 PM   #2417
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Happily though, Billy D has consistently announced he doesn't want promotion this year, so we can overtake you again soon...
Ah but this was the same Billy Davies who had a 3 year plan for getting Derby into the prem then did it in year one. He doesn't know what he's talking about sometimes

I was annoyed about Watford winning, we play them Saturday and I was hoping they'd go into the game with dented morale!

I'll be suprised if Newcastle don't go up, but having seen WBA first hand it won't surprise me if they don't, or at least have to go via the playoffs. I do hope (every year) that at least one team that hasn't just come down goes up--whoever it is.
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Old December 8 2009, 03:02 PM   #2418
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I'm convinced Newcastle will fade at some point and their lead as it stands will vanish. Their squad isn't the biggest, so what effect will key injuries have? Can they afford to dip into the January sales? I may have been a bit insane predicting them to completely fuck up before the season began, but I still believe they could yet crash and burn.

WBA are going up - they are THE yo-yo club. And they'll probably swap places with Wolves at this rate. The other two promoted teams could be frankly be anyone.
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Old December 9 2009, 01:04 PM   #2419
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Ha. No sooner do you speak, City beat WBA at the Hawthorns for the first time in 52 years and practically the entire top half of the table fails to win. What a league.

Oh and some Owen guy scored a hattrick. The third goal was very impressive. As was, I guess, Man United's performance without 15 regular squad members. Fletcher, Park, Carrick and Evra isn't exactly an ideal defensive force - and ironically, Evra, the only true defender, is probably the most attacking player out of those four. How the hell does Ferguson do it!?
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Old December 9 2009, 01:18 PM   #2420
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If there was an ENG squad tommorow he would still not take Owen and thats one of a few reasons why we won't win the World Cup. Owen makes brilliant runs and if Fergie played him more then his goal tally would go up. Have to admit Owen looked rather quick yesterday especially for that 3rd goal, maybe his legs are not as gone as some pundits/critics would have you believe.
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Old December 9 2009, 02:00 PM   #2421
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I was genuinely astounded by his run on the third goal. Especially that late in the game as well!
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Old December 9 2009, 06:33 PM   #2422
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Ha. No sooner do you speak, City beat WBA at the Hawthorns for the first time in 52 years and practically the entire top half of the table fails to win. What a league.

Oh and some Owen guy scored a hattrick. The third goal was very impressive. As was, I guess, Man United's performance without 15 regular squad members. Fletcher, Park, Carrick and Evra isn't exactly an ideal defensive force - and ironically, Evra, the only true defender, is probably the most attacking player out of those four. How the hell does Ferguson do it!?
Wolfsburg already conceded 27 goals in 15 games in the Bundesliga this season (only two teams have done worse). They defense is really shaky. I suppose that helped.

I have to say, Wolfsburg was really stupid not to advance. 7 points after four games and then they play like that against Moscow (leading 1-0 at half time, but losing 1-2) and ManU's B/C team.


And two of Moscow's players having been caught doping isn't going to help them either. UEFA always just bans the players but leaves the match results stand.



Edit: The regulations concerning this seem to be somewhat weird. A team can only be punished because of doping if 3+ players have been caught doping, however only 2 active players per team are routinely tested (plus 2 reserve players). Seems to me that UEFA is trying to prevent such a situation from even occurring ...
I don't think Wolfsburg deserves to advance based on this (far from it), but I do wonder about UEFA's procedures here.
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Old December 9 2009, 09:03 PM   #2423
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Stuttgart scored 12 goals so far in the Bundesliga, 16th place. Now they score 3 in the first ten minutes in the CL? What's going on there?

They fired their coach on Sunday. I think the former coach must feel like the team wanted him gone the way this is going.
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Old December 10 2009, 10:53 AM   #2424
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Has anybody here seen "The Damned United" (or read the book)?
I watched the movie last night, and imo it's fucking phantastic. Easily my most favourite football movie of all time. Even though that's not saying a whole lot since most football movies suck, I really loved this one.

I don't remember who (sorry), but one of the regulars in this thread is a Derby fan, right? What did you think about it?
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Old December 10 2009, 11:13 AM   #2425
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Went to the cinema to watch it and loved every second of it, the acting writing just everything was so good. Being a Forest fan the likes of Clough & Taylor are idols and while am sure it wasn't 100% accurate it was still a very good and Michael Sheen seems to be one of the best actors on the planet from Blair to Frost to Clough. Personally though I felt there choice of actor to play Peter Taylor was just superb I don't think anyone else could of done such a brilliant job. There are talks of a sequel which will be made about his glory times at Forest.

Brought the DVD and book for x mas presents for my dad and a friend's dad but might have to buy my own copies soon.
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Old December 10 2009, 12:19 PM   #2426
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I agree completely, the acting was great and the writing too - although that was probably easier since the story itself was just so remarkable already.

I imagine Leeds fans possibly weren't too happy with how their club was presented though.
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Old December 10 2009, 12:46 PM   #2427
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Has anybody here seen "The Damned United" (or read the book)?
I watched the movie last night, and imo it's fucking phantastic. Easily my most favourite football movie of all time. Even though that's not saying a whole lot since most football movies suck, I really loved this one.

I don't remember who (sorry), but one of the regulars in this thread is a Derby fan, right? What did you think about it?
That'll be me (although I'm not the only one)

I failed to go see it at the cinema (actually had the screen break down on the night we were going to go and had no other time before it ended) but got both the book and the film for my birthday!

I loved both, although the book is a bit deperessing because Clough seems such a pathetic figure by the end.

For someone who was a small child during Derby's glory days and who had no real appreciation at the time, it was wonderful to see/read about. One thing the book does in particular is big up Peter Taylor's involvment (although the film does too) they really were a double act and neither was as succesful without the other. This is why, though Nottingham has a statue of Cloughie, Derby will hopefully soon have a statue of Clough and Taylor.

The Clough family weren't very happy about the book or the film I think, although conversly Taylor's family loved that his contribution was showcased.

That's still the ultimate tragedy about both men, they never reconciled before the died, and it seemed to be a huge regret for Clough.

I thought Sheen was excellent as Clough for the most part, although because he is such a great mimic, and because he's played so many famous people there are odd occasions where I saw Tony Blair or Kenneth Williams rather than Clough. Thats a minor quibble and I doubt anyone could have done a better job. Spall did a good job but I didn't think it was especially well cast as Taylor. I thought Broadbent was superb as Longson and Meany was a good choice for Revie.

I thought the recreation of 70's football was extremely well done, much of it filmed at Saltergate, Chesterfield's ground.

As with the best sports films, it's less about football than the characters.
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Old December 10 2009, 12:54 PM   #2428
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I'm convinced Newcastle will fade at some point and their lead as it stands will vanish. Their squad isn't the biggest, so what effect will key injuries have? Can they afford to dip into the January sales? I may have been a bit insane predicting them to completely fuck up before the season began, but I still believe they could yet crash and burn.

WBA are going up - they are THE yo-yo club. And they'll probably swap places with Wolves at this rate. The other two promoted teams could be frankly be anyone.
Ashley is an idiot if he doesn't speculate to accumulate in January. He'll get more for Newcastle as a prem club rather than a championship one so he should allow the manager to buy a player or two to bolster the team.

WBA? I dunno, as I said I just wasn't that impressed with them on Saturday...man they handball a lot!
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Old December 10 2009, 04:15 PM   #2429
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Go away annoying child this is a thread for you know grown ups

I wonder how Rafa feels he's played his last ever CL game with Liverpool
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Old December 11 2009, 12:42 AM   #2430
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A special Jens Lehmann bonus:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SShRyPjqq38

(And yeah, that was during a game.)
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