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Old August 7 2009, 01:21 PM   #2131
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That's impressive, but I'm pretty sure they are the kind of teams you have to take seriously to beat, even for a club like Werder...
Sure. One thing they have going for them for example is that they're in the middle of the season so should not have to still learn to play with new teammates.
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Old August 7 2009, 02:06 PM   #2132
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Football season starts today, Middlesborough v Sheff Utd. It will be interesting to see how Boro do this season, perhaps Southgate will do better out of the Premiership spotlight. And my beloved Southampton face Millwall tomorrow which is on Sky Sports
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Old August 7 2009, 04:38 PM   #2133
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^ Boro is on Sky too. And Newcastle on BBC1 tomorrow. It's brilliant.

Why on earth is the Boro game tonight though? Strange bit of scheduling for the opening weekend.
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Old August 7 2009, 04:59 PM   #2134
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They often have lower league games on Fridays. I guess this means that they have Championship beginning today, League 1 tomorrow then the Community Sheild on Sunday so it's a whole weekend.
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Old August 7 2009, 05:35 PM   #2135
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Friday night games are common enough yeah... but the very first game of the season? Between two teams who both wish they were in the Premiership but aren't as well - harsh!
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Old August 8 2009, 09:52 AM   #2136
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All right...

Premier League
1. Chelsea
2. Man United
3. Arsenal
4. Liverpool
5. Everton
6. Man City
7. Villa
8. Spurs
9. Wigan
10. West Ham
11. Sunderland
12. Fulham
13. Blackburn
14. Bolton
15. Wolves
16. Stoke
17. Burnley
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18. Portsmouth
19. Birmingham
20. Hull

Prepare for some hefty doses of second season syndrome. In Hull's case, a lethal dosage if we're lucky.
Liverpool need more players, it's as simple as that for me. Maybe Aquilani will be good for them, but he's not going to be fully ready for action until the winter at least, and they don't have enough firepower for me, especially if the miracle-men get crocked. Rafa has made a mistake not to go for more attacking players, and his back-up is inferior to Chelsea and Man United.
I have a lot of time for Martinez and if he clicks in this division Wigan are in for a good reason. Who knows, year 5 could be the year they finally beat a top 4 team.
Fulham will never come close to last season and I imagine the Europa League will hurt them more than Villa or Everton.
Wolves and Burnley have good firepower and should be all right if they keep it tight at the back and concentrate on taking points off the bottom 10. Birmingham have Cameron Jerome and Marcus Bent - enough said. They've also put a lot of money into Christian Benitez, who could be a costly flop.

Championship
1. West Brom
2. Sheff U
3. Boro
4. Cardiff
5. Ipswich
6. Reading/Preston
7. Preston/Reading
8. Bristol City
9. QPR
10. Forest
11. Swansea
12. Derby
13. Wednesday
14. Palace
15. Doncaster
16. Leicester
17. Coventry
18. Peterborough
19. Blackpool
20. Watford
21. Barnsley
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22. Newcastle (if they don't sort themselves out by November)
23. Scunthorpe
24. Plymouth

Relegation from this division is impossible to predict. I wouldn't be surprised to see Watford down there again, especially if they let Smith or Priskin go. Ian Holloway is at Blackpool so god only knows what will happen to them this year. And Briatore will probably fire so many managers at QPR they could struggle too, though probably not badly enough to drop. Can't imagine why Magilton went there.
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Old August 8 2009, 10:50 AM   #2137
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10. Forest
I wish, while we have a wonderful attack and central midfield not too mention Gunter at this level will be one of the best right backs in the league...We need a classy centre back to partner Chambers (Wilson & Morgan are only good enough to be cover) and with an injury prone Bennett we are very suspectable at left back. Also we still lack a playmaker on the wing ever since Commons left.

I think top 15 is best case this season, we will score enough but concede too many to push for a top 12 spot this year. Looking good though for a 5 year plan to get out of championship with 1 already down.
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Old August 8 2009, 11:12 AM   #2138
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To be honest 6-24 could be those teams in any order, but Forest have outspent everyone else in the division I figure that's a justification for putting them 10th. I like Gunter a lot too - regular first team action will make him better for Wales, cos god knows we need some better players.
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Old August 8 2009, 05:19 PM   #2139
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The Newcastle game is about to start on BBC1. I like that regular football is back on TV. Also, if Newcastle do a Norwich...
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Old August 8 2009, 10:39 PM   #2140
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Espanyol Captain Daniel Jarque, aged 26, was found dead in his hotel room at their training camp in Italy. The player was talking on the phone with his girlfriend when for unknown reasons he suffered a heart attack and stopped talking.

His fellow players became worried when he failed to turn up to a meal.

Jarque's last match as Captain was the 3-0 win over Liverpool to officially open Estadi Cornellà-El Prat


RIP. Thoughts are with his family, especially his girlfriend who "witnessed" his death
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Old August 9 2009, 01:59 AM   #2141
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Oh look Carlton Cole and Jermain Defoe are in the ENG squad, that makes me feel all warm n fuzzy inside So OWEN whose been playing in pre-season, looks fit and scoring is not as good as Carlton Cole ?
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Old August 9 2009, 03:51 PM   #2142
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I've heard some Cardiff fanns being quite pessamistic about this coming season, glad to see you're not one of them.
I think the reasons behind the pessimism are mainly to do with losing Johnson, as he really was our best defender, and the question marks over Ledley and McCormack' futures. Hopefully Ledley will stay, but McCormack has gone way downhill in lot of people's estimations. His utter disrespect for the club is very apparent from his complete lack of effort at the most crucial point of last season and his jonesing for a move to ^&%ing Hull. Add in that his goals have dried up and he can't even score from the spot anymore, and that's a lot of goals to lose from last year's side. Bothroyd is hardly prolific and Chopra may not click back into the division. He barely seems to know where he is sometimes. But then, we never knew what our best strikeforce was anyway, so that hardly bothers me.

But why be pessimistic? We have a shiny new stadium that compared to Ninian Park is like stepping into the 33rd century (Electronic card-readers in place of tickets? Seats!?). We have a pretty solid back line even without Johnson, much better than some of the defences on show in this division. Not that we can buy a decent goalkeeper for love nor money, mind you. The signings look decent, Gerrard in particular looks very promising if he can make the step up from League One. Chris Burke is fit, as far as I know, so should get some good attacks in down the wing. And we got rid of Parry too, who was taking up precious parts of the wage bill for doing very little of late. And best of all, Swansea are massively weakened in terms of both manager and player staff, so we can get some joy out of the derby games (and hopefully overshadow the violence for once!).

So yes, I will be at the game tomorrow, we will take on Scunthorpe and start the season as we mean to go on (until the annual collapse, but hopefully we can delay that even longer this year!)


I'd have backed Villa for 4th but I wasn't impressed with how O'Neill screwed up the tail end of a great season, and his signings this summer haven't been inspired. (although who knows maybe a fit again downing coming into the team for the second have of the season will prove an inspired decision...but I doubt it!)
This is a team who've paid £12m for an injured winger who's not as good as the one they've already got and about £8m for an untested League One player. No player in League One can possibly be worth half that amount. Villa need more and better signings and quickly, otherwise City are taking their spot, especially once the Euro games kick in.
Well so far your optimism is being rewarded, only one game but 4-0 is a great way to start the season. Was it a good game?

I think Forest getting a point at Reading was a good result (sadly )Was really impressed by us though, to a point. Derby played some of the best passing football I've seen us play in a very long time, but pretty as it was we had one man up front and I feared Peterboro getting a flukey goal, and then we duly oblige with a penalty! Luckily we pretty much went up the other end and scored. Good game, great play, we just need to kill teams off, then play keep ball!

I joked with my Villa mate yesterday that I now see they're shopping in the same stores as Hull...don't think that went down well
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Old August 9 2009, 03:54 PM   #2143
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10. Forest
I wish, while we have a wonderful attack and central midfield not too mention Gunter at this level will be one of the best right backs in the league...We need a classy centre back to partner Chambers (Wilson & Morgan are only good enough to be cover) and with an injury prone Bennett we are very suspectable at left back. Also we still lack a playmaker on the wing ever since Commons left.

I think top 15 is best case this season, we will score enough but concede too many to push for a top 12 spot this year. Looking good though for a 5 year plan to get out of championship with 1 already down.
I think you'll make top 15 easily. Curious about Billy not addressing the defence (have a friend who's a Forest fan saying exactly the same thing) but Bill is a trifle mad sometimes, hence why when we needed central defensive cover, not to mention someone to understudy Howard) Billy went out and bought several midfielders and two full backs

Anyway, Norwich City, worst opening game of the season for any team ever?
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Old August 9 2009, 06:13 PM   #2144
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Yesterday We had 3 strikers playing (one on the wing) and another 4 on the bench with no back up defenders. Luckily Chambers got sent off in the 88th minute and not the 8th oh BILLY D you simply have no clue at times.
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Old August 9 2009, 06:20 PM   #2145
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Oh look Carlton Cole and Jermain Defoe are in the ENG squad, that makes me feel all warm n fuzzy inside So OWEN whose been playing in pre-season, looks fit and scoring is not as good as Carlton Cole ?
Scoring a couple of goals against dross in pre-season doesn't entitle you to a place in the squad. Cole and Defoe were better than Owen last season, and get their place on merit. Owen just doesn't fit in with Capello's game plan. Accept it!

Besides, it's only a friendly.
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