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Old June 27 2009, 10:26 AM   #2026
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As I've been following this thread, a couple of things confused me:

How are the player contracts structured in the European leagues - is the contract with the team or the league?

What is the "transfer window"? Is it like free agency in US sports where the player can hold out for the best offer?

Make sure and use a lot of short words in the answers, I'm a hockey player who's had one too many concussions, probably.

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Basically, being a football player in EU countries is a job like any other. Only because of the nature of the sport it's advantageous for both sides to commit to each other for a specified time period (usually between 2 to 5 years).
When a club wants to sign a player who is contractually obligated to another club, they have to come to an agreement or the player stays with the former club (that's what the $80 million were that Real Madrid paid for Christiano Ronaldo).
When a player doesn't have a contract (or his contract is about to expire), because it already expired, he can sign a new contract with anybody, both in the league he used to play or any other with no restrictions whatsoever; depending on how good he is, he usually gets a one-time bonus from his club then.
And contrary to what Daedalus12 says, this is very frequent, at least in smaller leagues with clubs that aren't as financially strong as eg the Premier League clubs. The club I support almost never "buys" players out of their contracts, because we just can't afford it, and that's true for most other clubs in our league too.

"Transfer window" just means that that's the only time of the season (a couple months in summer and in winter) that a player can switch clubs.
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Old June 27 2009, 11:20 AM   #2027
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In other news, Manchester United guaranteed to win Premier League title for the next several seasons.
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Old June 27 2009, 11:25 AM   #2028
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Oh shite. At least he can't fuck it up on the pitch any more.
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Old June 27 2009, 02:34 PM   #2029
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(why no Derbyshire in squad ?)
Becasue he's 23?
He would have had to have been part of the qualifying squad to be able to be there now, like Mark Noble - I think either him or Milner is 22/23. Derbyshire probably wasn't called up before so can't be now. Which is a shame, as I imagine he was playing a fair bit in Greece this season. Probably more than that idiot Campbell, who needs to go back to Hull and stay there.
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Old June 27 2009, 04:00 PM   #2030
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(why no Derbyshire in squad ?)
Becasue he's 23?
U21 is for people U23, you have to be 21 come the start of the Q/F and he was eligable because he played for ENG (On the 28 March 2009) and doesn't appeard injuried.

U21 Record - 6 goals in 14 caps

In greece - 5 goals in 7 league games, I heard more in cup games too.
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Old June 27 2009, 04:49 PM   #2031
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In that case, it's probably because as far as the FA is concerned, Greece doesn't exist. He must be about the only Englishman playing abroad, so he's a dangerously untrustworthy individual. After all, if he couldn't cut it at Blackburn, is he good enough to be an England international?

Or maybe it's just because Stuart Pearce hates souvlaki and ouzo?
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Old June 27 2009, 04:52 PM   #2032
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How good is the Greek league again? But still, not picking him on that record is nonsensical. How much did Campbell play last season? Some sub appearances and and some cup games, and barely even that once Redknapp turned up.
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Old June 27 2009, 04:57 PM   #2033
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How good is the Greek league again?
Somewhat decent, but not very good, they are #15 in the UEFA 5-year ranking.
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Old June 27 2009, 06:41 PM   #2034
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In that case, it's probably because as far as the FA is concerned, Greece doesn't exist. He must be about the only Englishman playing abroad, so he's a dangerously untrustworthy individual. After all, if he couldn't cut it at Blackburn, is he good enough to be an England international?
Couldn't cut it at Blackburn is a little harsh he seemed to do decent work there but was always on bench for people like McCarthy and Roberts even when they couldn't score.
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Old June 27 2009, 08:54 PM   #2035
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*remembers sarcasm doesn't always translate well on the internet*

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Old June 27 2009, 09:25 PM   #2036
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*remembers sarcasm doesn't always translate well on the internet*

Not without a ...

some transfer news...

Everton, Sunderland and Aston Villa had a £8.5m bid accepted for Tom Huddlestone
and Redknapp is less than pleased with Daniel Levy

Redknapp was happy to sell Bent for £12 million but Levy wants £18 million for a player who they brought for just over £16 million
Now Bent scoring record is quite decent despite being denied a regular place in the side for the past 2 years. However £18 million is stupid price tag for Bent and they could barter for around 14 I guess but I would accept a £12.5 million bid anyway.

Levy should not piss Redknapp off like this because Harry will have no problem quitting if hes not allowed to do his job, I doubt his CV will take much of a hamper after all he took Spurs from 20th to a top 10 finish.
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Old June 28 2009, 02:21 PM   #2037
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What kind of world do we live where Darren Bent is supposedly worth more than he was when Spurs shelled a crazy amount of money for him? Spurs are just insane.

I want to hear more about this 'stratospheric' offer Citeh have made for Eto'o. Eto'o, Tevez, Robinho and Santa Cruz all in the same team would be interesting to say the least. They really do need to get spending at the back though.
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Old June 29 2009, 01:29 AM   #2038
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USA throw away 2-0 lead, ouch but good try though come the WC they probably will not make it past the last 16 at best. ENG U21's tommorow and I do think they can win the cup 2-1 though with those suspensions it will be a toughie but Germany may of had all of there luck since Italy somehow failed to score past them...Italy should of win 5-1
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Old June 29 2009, 03:20 AM   #2039
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Yeah, the US team shouldn't have thrown away the lead like that, but I don't think anyone predicted them to even be up two goals to Brazil. You could tell by the looks on their faces how much they wanted it. I'm sad to see it end this way, but I know this means they'll be wanting the World Cup even more.
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Old June 29 2009, 03:49 AM   #2040
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