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Old March 24 2008, 05:50 PM   #1
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Riker-O'Brien disagreement?

In the episode "Defiant", Tom Riker dismisses O'Brien when he sees him, and he knows why, supposedly.

Why's that? Was O'Brien responsible for the transporter duplication?
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Old March 24 2008, 06:10 PM   #2
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Re: Riker-O'Brien disagreement?

Second question/answer under Miscellaneous in the forum FAQ.

*resets countdown timer to next Riker/O'Brien thread*
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Old March 24 2008, 06:17 PM   #3
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Re: Riker-O'Brien disagreement?

O'Brien was already on DS9 by then, so he couldn't have been. I've always thought of it as Tom just trying to get rid of O'Brien, as O'Brien knows WILL Riker pretty well and might have been able to tell the difference between the two before it was revealed.

ETA: Or fine, go read the FAQ. Guess I've never read it either
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Old March 24 2008, 06:32 PM   #4
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Re: Riker-O'Brien disagreement?

Nobody ever wants to buy into my theory that Tom just frakin' hates transporter chiefs.
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Old March 24 2008, 08:31 PM   #5
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Re: Riker-O'Brien disagreement?

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Nobody ever wants to buy into my theory that Tom just frakin' hates transporter chiefs.
They are the reason he even exists. I should think he would be referring to them as The Prophets, and the transporter buffer as the Celestial Temple.
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Old March 24 2008, 09:59 PM   #6
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Re: Riker-O'Brien disagreement?

That would only be true if Tom believed himself to be the copy and not the original.
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Old March 24 2008, 10:23 PM   #7
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Re: Riker-O'Brien disagreement?

Steven wrote: View Post
Second question/answer under Miscellaneous in the forum FAQ.

*resets countdown timer to next Riker/O'Brien thread*
What we need is that one thread bomb with that guy slapping his head and going "Oh geez...not this shit again!"
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Old March 24 2008, 10:38 PM   #8
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Nobody ever wants to buy into my theory that Tom just frakin' hates transporter chiefs.
They are the reason he even exists. I should think he would be referring to them as The Prophets, and the transporter buffer as the Celestial Temple.
Due to a transporter accident, he spent years living by himself underground a desolate wasteland, and when finally rescued he discovers nobody had even known he'd gone because his identity had been usurped by another person. I'd be a tad irked, to be honest.
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Old March 24 2008, 11:04 PM   #9
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Re: Riker-O'Brien disagreement?

PKTrekGirl wrote: View Post
Steven wrote: View Post
Second question/answer under Miscellaneous in the forum FAQ.

*resets countdown timer to next Riker/O'Brien thread*
What we need is that one thread bomb with that guy slapping his head and going "Oh geez...not this shit again!"
Not the one you meant I guess, but:


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Old March 25 2008, 02:40 AM   #10
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Re: Riker-O'Brien disagreement?

Short answer: Tom Riker knew he could bullshit anyone on DS9 except the one guy who really knew Will Riker: O'Brien. And he knew O'Brien, despite it all, would respect rank when Tom told him to take a hike while impersonating Will. That's why we see O'Brien give his WTF reaction shot after that incident as he's leaving Defiant.
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Old March 25 2008, 06:43 AM   #11
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PKTrekGirl wrote: View Post
Steven wrote: View Post
Second question/answer under Miscellaneous in the forum FAQ.

*resets countdown timer to next Riker/O'Brien thread*
What we need is that one thread bomb with that guy slapping his head and going "Oh geez...not this shit again!"
I really like this one:
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Old March 25 2008, 09:02 AM   #12
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Found him!
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Old March 25 2008, 09:18 AM   #13
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Emperor-Tiberius wrote: View Post
In the episode "Defiant", Tom Riker dismisses O'Brien when he sees him, and he knows why, supposedly.

Why's that? Was O'Brien responsible for the transporter duplication?
*sigh*

Riker knew that O'Brian had served with his "brother", the man he was impersonating. He knew that any conversation with O'Brian could expose him for the imposter he was. So he ended that conversation before it could begin.

We all know where this'll go. Some people will complain that the scene was poorly written because O'Brian should have stood up for himself. Others will say that the scene was fine and that you don't start drama with your friend in front of your boss. No one will change their minds.
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Old March 25 2008, 09:54 AM   #14
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O'Brien broke up with him. Riker didnt take it well.
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Old March 25 2008, 11:57 AM   #15
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"I have nothing to say to you, O'Brien. You know why."

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