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Old July 12 2010, 07:19 PM   #451
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Re: Schematics made with Vance's toolkit

Now I always thought that this design would make a better transport ship for a line of smaller containers:
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f2...on_old_CVA.png

Now imagine that the primary hull also has a Reliant type laminated hull joining its high back--only not as wide. This structure tapers into something like the Napoleon but raised a bit higher, like a Space 1999 Eagle. The cannisters are underslung, with perhaps a bottom ridge connecting them allowing this ship higher sppeds and more violent maneuvers compared to most cargo vessels. The Aft is very like a huge DY-500, but with three impulse decks stacked atop each other, and instead of vanes to either side, you have two pair of warp drives.

I really like what is being done here:
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f2...handleyMk4.png
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f2...k/Voyageur.png

These are very uncluttered designs. The nacelle supports of the second trail off nicely, and the Chandley looks great as well. Both designs are understated and not over greebled. I know Vance is tired of scaled up Refit saucers, but one without phaser banks except for the lower front pair might look elegant.

I look forward to more phase II variants, like this perhaps
http://www.scifi-meshes.com/forums/s...surrection-WIP...

Look at the bottom of this page http://www.scifi-meshes.com/forums/s...-design/page12
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Old July 12 2010, 07:25 PM   #452
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Re: Schematics made with Vance's toolkit

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Man - these are good!
Good indeed
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Old July 13 2010, 12:11 PM   #453
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Thanks for the kind words everyone.


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Personally, I have never liked the stacked nacelle look.
Yes, that look is extremly strange-looking (and not in a good way). But with my "mission statement" being "odd", the challenge to try and make this work with TOS-components, fitted the bill really good.

But from an standpoint of realistic desgn, the mated nacelles (side by side), which i first encountered in Jackill's works, makes more sense.


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The New London class is really neat, though I would use a full saucer to give room for crew accommodations.
A bigger saucer i tried, but i did not find a good looking position aft of the secondary hull. In the end, this would have ended in a conventional craft with two secondary hulls.
Apart from being not "odd", that had been done before multiple times. So i went for the star destroyer look instead.
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Old July 16 2010, 01:21 AM   #454
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Axanar class heavy carrier
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Old July 16 2010, 06:41 AM   #455
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Very Nice carrier
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Old July 18 2010, 12:06 AM   #456
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Gloire class strike cruiser

The class ship carries a honorary registry to honor the heroic actions of UESF destroyer Gloire during the battle of New London.


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Old July 19 2010, 06:07 PM   #457
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Very pretty Strike cruiser and cool history behind it
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Old July 19 2010, 10:30 PM   #458
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I think Gloire makes best use of the command saucer hull extension.

It looks best--not atop a standard secondary hull--but trailing off into one all its own, or in front of one...
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Old July 24 2010, 02:33 AM   #459
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Axanar class heavy carrier
Or the U.S.S. Uber.
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Old July 27 2010, 08:59 PM   #460
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Actually, i don't think so. It's big and can carry a lot of stuff. But because of it's great mass the maneuverability and reaction time at impulse speed sucks and it needs four warp nacelles, carefully balanced to each other, to get a useable performance at warp speed. The armaments are not heavier as any mid sized cruiser, so i wouldn't want to get into a shootout in this ship, probably every smaller vessel can outmaneuver it and stay in the weak areas of the armaments while casually filleting the sucker.

Anyhow, a few ships based on Patrickivan's TOS corvette

Stalwart class corvette


Class 357 police craft


Class 412 system defence craft
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Old July 29 2010, 06:34 AM   #461
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Nice Little ships
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Old July 29 2010, 11:06 AM   #462
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[worf]Little?[/worf]
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Old July 29 2010, 05:38 PM   #463
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^__^ little but still look awesome
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Old September 17 2010, 01:39 AM   #464
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I really like the schematics. would like to make some of my own. Where can I get my hands on Vance's Toolkit? Thanks.
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Old September 17 2010, 03:39 AM   #465
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http://www.cygnus-x1.net/links/lcars/vance.php

Scroll down, the parts sheets are towards the bottom.
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