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Old March 7 2008, 02:59 PM   #106
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Re: Destiny trilogy - pretty heavy spoilers

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Old March 7 2008, 04:08 PM   #107
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It's Star Trek: Destiny.
So we'll all be referring to it as... STD?


Well, so much for Pocket's idea for an ad slogan: "Catch it!"
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Old March 7 2008, 05:08 PM   #108
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So we'll all be referring to it as... STD?


Well, so much for Pocket's idea for an ad slogan: "Catch it!"
What have I unleashed?
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Old March 7 2008, 08:06 PM   #109
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Old March 7 2008, 11:44 PM   #110
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Old March 8 2008, 12:06 AM   #111
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It's Star Trek: Destiny.
So we'll all be referring to it as... STD?
And for once many people will be glad to have gotten an STD.
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Old March 8 2008, 08:59 PM   #112
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Scotty was killed by Nomad in The Changeling and then brought back to life by the probe.

Which time period was this in? I don't remember any previous mention of Scotty in a near-death situation. Who's Nomad & which probe was this?
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Old March 8 2008, 09:06 PM   #113
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Old March 9 2008, 10:55 AM   #114
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Scotty was killed by Nomad in The Changeling and then brought back to life by the probe.

Which time period was this in? I don't remember any previous mention of Scotty in a near-death situation. Who's Nomad & which probe was this?
As Defcon noted above it was in the TOS 2nd Season episode The Changeling. It wasn't a "near death" experience, Scotty was actually dead and brought back to life. Nomad was an Earth probe that had been joined together with an alien probe and become sentient. It killed Scotty and completely wiped Uhura's memory. Nomad was able to resurrect Scotty, but Uhura had to be reeducated by Dr McCoy and Nurse Chapel.
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Old March 9 2008, 02:26 PM   #115
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Nomad was able to resurrect Scotty, but Uhura had to be reeducated by Dr McCoy and Nurse Chapel.
If Uhura's mind was completely wiped, that means they taught Uhura Swahili before teaching her English, and that she relearned everything else -- included years at Starfleet Academy and years of on-the-job experience -- in a very, very short time. In other words, I don't buy that Uhura's memory was erased. Blocked temporarily, maybe, but she was obviously starting to remember during the reeducation process.

One thing that always bugged me about ST IV was the joke about McCoy not being able to discuss death with Spock without a common frame of reference. Guess they both forgot about "Shore Leave."
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Old March 9 2008, 03:28 PM   #116
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There's a good explanation of the Uhura memory-wipe issue in the story "Communications Breakdown" in the second ST manga from TokyoPop -- basically that Nomad only wiped one portion of Uhura's memory, that first languages and second languages are stored differently in the brain, that sort of thing.
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Old March 9 2008, 11:01 PM   #117
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There's a good explanation of the Uhura memory-wipe issue in the story "Communications Breakdown" in the second ST manga from TokyoPop -- basically that Nomad only wiped one portion of Uhura's memory, that first languages and second languages are stored differently in the brain, that sort of thing.
Yeah but that explanation, imo, didn't fit well with the story "See No Evil" by Jill Sherwin in Constellations. That story (as far as I remember) made it seem more like a complete memory loss and building from scratch like the episode said.
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Old March 10 2008, 01:25 AM   #118
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Well, it's never been a requirement that different works of tie-in fiction (especially from different publishers) fit together with each other. There's nothing wrong with having different angles taken on the same idea.
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Well, it's never been a requirement that different works of tie-in fiction (especially from different publishers) fit together with each other. There's nothing wrong with having different angles taken on the same idea.
Ah, I thought that even though Tokyopop put the mangas together, that the publisher of the books were in charge. My mistake.
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Well, it's never been a requirement that different works of tie-in fiction (especially from different publishers) fit together with each other. There's nothing wrong with having different angles taken on the same idea.
Ah, I thought that even though Tokyopop put the mangas together, that the publisher of the books were in charge. My mistake.
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The editors make every effort to keep the books internally consistent but, if there's a great story to be told and a few minor points need to be finessed to get it in your hands, the story beats consistency.

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