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Old June 24 2008, 02:17 AM   #421
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Re: Destiny trilogy - pretty heavy spoilers

No, I meant totally different companies like Del Rey and Scholastic, not just different parts of the same company.
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Old June 24 2008, 03:31 AM   #422
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I think the Pocket Books catalog cover for Destiny book 1 is pretty funny, considering it features the NX-01 fighting a Borg sphere.
No, it features the NX-01 destroying a Suliban cell ship. It's a recycled image from a Ships of the Line calendar. A Borg sphere would be far bigger than that. Also spherical.
Ah, okay. I didn't look at it that closely. The point still stands that it was nothing close to the content of the book.
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Old June 24 2008, 09:08 AM   #423
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No, I meant totally different companies like Del Rey and Scholastic, not just different parts of the same company.
Simon & Schuster's imprints have the exclusive license for ST fiction and authorized guidebooks.
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Old June 24 2008, 09:16 AM   #424
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^ Does that include new Trek though? Art Asylum has the exclusive for Trek Merchandise but when the new film was announced they gave the rights to new toys to Playmates while AA keeps the previous Treks.
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Old June 24 2008, 09:18 AM   #425
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^ Does that include new Trek though? Art Asylum has the exclusive for Trek Merchandise but when the new film was announced they gave the rights to new toys to Playmates while AA keeps the previous Treks.
AKAIK, Pocket Books was confirmed as having the license for Star Trek XI, with IDW Publishing getting the related comics.
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Old June 27 2008, 02:13 AM   #426
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Sounds to me like the Destiny trilogy is going to feature the Borg being stopped by yet another "deux ex machina"

Just once I would like to see the Borg stopped by superior leadership, tactics, weapons, and Starfleet simply managing to put large enough of a fleet against them.

ST: First Contact does not count of course. That was related to the earlier The Best of Both Worlds deux ex machina.
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Old June 27 2008, 02:23 AM   #427
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I would like to see the Borg stopped by superior leadership, tactics, weapons, and Starfleet simply managing to put large enough of a fleet against them.
Military tactics don't generally work against forces of nature.

And that's what the Borg are. A force of nature.
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Old June 27 2008, 03:49 AM   #428
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Sounds to me like the Destiny trilogy is going to feature the Borg being stopped by yet another "deux ex machina" ST: First Contact does not count of course. That was related to the earlier The Best of Both Worlds deux ex machina.
So would that make it deux 'deux'? If you're going to engage in empty criticism, at least spell it right. The word is deus. I'd expect you, of all people, to know the word for 'deity'.

Just once I would like to see the Borg stopped by superior leadership, tactics, weapons, and Starfleet simply managing to put large enough of a fleet against them.
Leadership is irrelevant. Tactics are irrelevant. Fleets are irrelevant. As for weapons - they will adapt. The only way to defeat the Borg is through the exploitation of the blind spots of a monolithic, mechanized culture - like BoBW did.

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Old June 27 2008, 04:05 AM   #429
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I'm really curious about how the Borg will be dealt with in these books. And how does starfleet handle this crisis. And what kind of unexpected suprises David Mack is sure to have in store for the different crews after the books finally come out. I'm sure we'll have to expect the unexpected and it will be a rollercoaster of a ride to boot.
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Old June 27 2008, 04:16 AM   #430
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I'm really curious about how the Borg will be dealt with in these books. And how does starfleet handle this crisis. And what kind of unexpected suprises David Mack is sure to have in store for the different crews after the books finally come out. I'm sure we'll have to expect the unexpected and it will be a rollercoaster of a ride to boot.
Given that the Borg are using tunnels through subspace or subpace corridors to get to the Federation and that the Borg destroy a Starfleet force of hundreds of ships sent to stop them in the 2nd book, it appears that the key lies in the "powers" of the woman who has been living among a group of aliens since the days of the NX-02 U.S.S. Columbia.

My thinking being that she will be able to provide a way to close off those channels or tunnels through subspace allowing the Borg to invade.

Thus ending the immediate danger and not altering the Borg significantly in case they need to be used again.

That said, no war is unwinnable.

The Borg could be defeated by conventional means and remain a terrifying threat with decent writing.
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Old June 27 2008, 05:31 PM   #431
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^Yeah, but where would the whole universe alterting event be in all of that.
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Old June 27 2008, 06:40 PM   #432
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I'm really curious about how the Borg will be dealt with in these books. And how does starfleet handle this crisis. And what kind of unexpected suprises David Mack is sure to have in store for the different crews after the books finally come out. I'm sure we'll have to expect the unexpected and it will be a rollercoaster of a ride to boot.
Given that the Borg are using tunnels through subspace or subpace corridors to get to the Federation and that the Borg destroy a Starfleet force of hundreds of ships sent to stop them in the 2nd book, it appears that the key lies in the "powers" of the woman who has been living among a group of aliens since the days of the NX-02 U.S.S. Columbia.

My thinking being that she will be able to provide a way to close off those channels or tunnels through subspace allowing the Borg to invade.

Thus ending the immediate danger and not altering the Borg significantly in case they need to be used again.

That said, no war is unwinnable.

The Borg could be defeated by conventional means and remain a terrifying threat with decent writing.
Makes sense to me about the Borg and the fact they'd used the transpace hubs to launch their attacks. And the Woman and her powers to fight against the borg with Will Riker & the Titan it makes me curious how this series will change the different book series as well.
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Old June 27 2008, 09:31 PM   #433
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Old June 27 2008, 10:01 PM   #434
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no, only one.
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Old June 27 2008, 10:06 PM   #435
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Nope. They destroyed a transwarp hub, one of several in the galaxy (EDIT: if the notes at Memory Alpha are accurate, there were six hubs in use at the time of "Endgame", leaving the Borg with five more). If the VOY-R asserted that the entire network went down, then it's just one more thing those books got wrong.

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