Star Ship Polaris - Page 5

Admiral Buzzkill · March 14 2008, 07:01 AM

The ship is a little over three hundred feet long. I'm determined not to go the "Star Wars" route - a lot of nernies - because I prefer the pre-2001 look of ships like the Enterprise or other science fiction of the 1950s and 1960s ("Voyage To The Bottom Of The Sea," "Forbidden Planet" and so forth). So really the only effective way to suggest scale is with windows. This is problematic too because of the ship's internal layout.

Eventually it'll probably be up to a few windows and scaling of the hull plates. The look of "Colonial One" on the new Battlestar Galactica may be a useful reference as well.

Venardhi · March 14 2008, 07:52 AM

Really liking where she is heading. I couldn't quite make my ideas work, perhaps the ring elements could be used for a variant ship from the same fleet or something like that.

Is it just me, or is there a little bit of lens distortion in that latest shot? It might be in some of the others but the perspective feels slightly off and it is nagging at me.

Tallguy · March 18 2008, 04:00 AM

Wow. Haven't looked in here in a while and I missed this! Terrific work, guys. Two of my favorite artists doing really really cool stuff!

Admiral Buzzkill · March 18 2008, 04:15 AM

She's into the shop for an overhaul - the horseshoe cowling is gone, hopefully to be replaced with something more dynamic. I was rather attached to it, but it brought the scale down too much, I think - there were too many automotive associations with it, including the visual equation of the rear sublight engines with tail-lights.

Venardhi · March 18 2008, 05:06 AM

Perhaps the cowling could be retained on the bottom side. It works so well with the shapes it would be a shame to scrap it entirely, but I do agree with the scaling problem. That wouldn't be nearly as serious on the bottom side though, and you did say you wanted to differentiate them. A few greebles (perhaps some antennae and 'sensors', weapons or escape craft tucked into the cowling?) could easily fix the scale problem if it were the less-seen side of the ship where it wouldn't be as immediately apparent.

Admiral Buzzkill · March 19 2008, 02:36 AM

Kelso · March 19 2008, 02:46 AM

The ship looks damn good from the rear. I feel like I can see it moving.

Are those (ray)guns between the engines?

Admiral Buzzkill · March 19 2008, 03:08 AM

And hopefully someday soon we will.

Yeah, given that the heavy weapons are retrofit onto the ship we thought maybe they'd be "bolted on" to some kind of exo-structure that's not part of the original design.

I was leaning toward missiles, but aridas has about convinced me that, you know, if you can control gravity (which is pretty much de rigeur for building starships like this) you can accelerate sub-atomic particles at people real damn fast.

TheLoneRedshirt · March 19 2008, 03:20 AM

I absolutely love how your ship design has evolved. It certainly has that 1950's - 60's Sci-Fi look, yet with a somewhat more modern feel to it. The colors are great - tasteful but not garish.

Terrific work!

Venardhi · March 19 2008, 08:36 PM

Starship Polaris wrote:

And hopefully someday soon we will.

Yeah, given that the heavy weapons are retrofit onto the ship we thought maybe they'd be "bolted on" to some kind of exo-structure that's not part of the original design.

I was leaning toward missiles, but aridas has about convinced me that, you know, if you can control gravity (which is pretty much de rigeur for building starships like this) you can accelerate sub-atomic particles at people real damn fast.

The same would go for any kind of projectile though. Who says you can only have one or the other? Energy weapons might work better against 'shields' or for disrupting their systems, where projectiles or explosives might work better for other purposes.

FrontLine · March 19 2008, 11:30 PM

I love this current iteration. Fantastic job.

Admiral Buzzkill · March 20 2008, 12:12 AM

Thanks.

We don't have shields or forcefields. Best idea is not to get hit by weapons fire.

The danger of hitting or being hit by anything in hyperspace is about nil. During travel within spacetime, we probably would have energy beams of some kind to sweep the path ahead with the emphasis on imparting a very low-energy "push" to small bits of matter at an extreme distance.

Kaiser · March 20 2008, 01:06 AM

Whew Weee im liking the progress on this

Admiral Buzzkill · March 20 2008, 02:14 AM

Going to do something different with the weapons and the "spine," so they're missing from this one:

The first version of the back ring looked a bit too squashed and twisted.

HRHTheKING · March 20 2008, 06:38 AM

Great looking ship

March 14 2008, 07:01 AM	#61
Admiral Buzzkill The Man Location: Defying Gravity	Re: Star Ship Polaris The ship is a little over three hundred feet long. I'm determined not to go the "Star Wars" route - a lot of nernies - because I prefer the pre-2001 look of ships like the Enterprise or other science fiction of the 1950s and 1960s ("Voyage To The Bottom Of The Sea," "Forbidden Planet" and so forth). So really the only effective way to suggest scale is with windows. This is problematic too because of the ship's internal layout. Eventually it'll probably be up to a few windows and scaling of the hull plates. The look of "Colonial One" on the new Battlestar Galactica may be a useful reference as well. __________________ I had steak and a loaded baked potato for dinner on Sunday. As a steak I enjoyed it a lot, but as macaroni and cheese I thought it was disappointing.

March 14 2008, 07:52 AM	#62
Venardhi Vice Admiral Location: Constant transit	Re: Star Ship Polaris Really liking where she is heading. I couldn't quite make my ideas work, perhaps the ring elements could be used for a variant ship from the same fleet or something like that. Is it just me, or is there a little bit of lens distortion in that latest shot? It might be in some of the others but the perspective feels slightly off and it is nagging at me. __________________ "There is no reason why good cannot triumph as often as evil. The triumph of anything is a matter of organization. If there are such things as angels, I hope that they are organized along the lines of the Maffia." - Winston Niles Rumfoord.

March 18 2008, 04:00 AM	#63
Tallguy Fleet Captain Location: Phoenix, AZ	Re: Star Ship Polaris Wow. Haven't looked in here in a while and I missed this! Terrific work, guys. Two of my favorite artists doing really really cool stuff! __________________ *-- Bill "Tallguy" Thomas* "All I ask is a tall ship..."

March 18 2008, 04:15 AM	#64
Admiral Buzzkill The Man Location: Defying Gravity	Re: Star Ship Polaris She's into the shop for an overhaul - the horseshoe cowling is gone, hopefully to be replaced with something more dynamic. I was rather attached to it, but it brought the scale down too much, I think - there were too many automotive associations with it, including the visual equation of the rear sublight engines with tail-lights. __________________ I had steak and a loaded baked potato for dinner on Sunday. As a steak I enjoyed it a lot, but as macaroni and cheese I thought it was disappointing.

March 18 2008, 05:06 AM	#65
Venardhi Vice Admiral Location: Constant transit	Re: Star Ship Polaris Perhaps the cowling could be retained on the bottom side. It works so well with the shapes it would be a shame to scrap it entirely, but I do agree with the scaling problem. That wouldn't be nearly as serious on the bottom side though, and you did say you wanted to differentiate them. A few greebles (perhaps some antennae and 'sensors', weapons or escape craft tucked into the cowling?) could easily fix the scale problem if it were the less-seen side of the ship where it wouldn't be as immediately apparent. __________________ "There is no reason why good cannot triumph as often as evil. The triumph of anything is a matter of organization. If there are such things as angels, I hope that they are organized along the lines of the Maffia." - Winston Niles Rumfoord.

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March 19 2008, 02:36 AM	#66
Admiral Buzzkill The Man Location: Defying Gravity	Re: Star Ship Polaris __________________ I had steak and a loaded baked potato for dinner on Sunday. As a steak I enjoyed it a lot, but as macaroni and cheese I thought it was disappointing.

March 19 2008, 02:46 AM	#67
Kelso Vice Admiral Location: On the destruct button until the last minute!	Re: Star Ship Polaris The ship looks damn good from the rear. I feel like I can see it moving. Are those (ray)guns between the engines? __________________ "Murder on Tuesday"! The all-new comic strip from Kail Tescar's startrekanimated.com My Puppet Building Blog!

March 19 2008, 03:08 AM	#68
Admiral Buzzkill The Man Location: Defying Gravity	Re: Star Ship Polaris And hopefully someday soon we will. Yeah, given that the heavy weapons are retrofit onto the ship we thought maybe they'd be "bolted on" to some kind of exo-structure that's not part of the original design. I was leaning toward missiles, but aridas has about convinced me that, you know, if you can control gravity (which is pretty much de rigeur for building starships like this) you can accelerate sub-atomic particles at people real damn fast. __________________ I had steak and a loaded baked potato for dinner on Sunday. As a steak I enjoyed it a lot, but as macaroni and cheese I thought it was disappointing.

March 19 2008, 03:20 AM	#69
TheLoneRedshirt Commodore	Re: Star Ship Polaris I absolutely love how your ship design has evolved. It certainly has that 1950's - 60's Sci-Fi look, yet with a somewhat more modern feel to it. The colors are great - tasteful but not garish. Terrific work! __________________ I'm not dead; I'm just pining for the Fjords.

March 19 2008, 11:30 PM	#71
FrontLine Nekkid Hedonistic Ethical Slut Location: Killin' Zombies!	Re: Star Ship Polaris I love this current iteration. Fantastic job. __________________ THE orignal naked hedonistic glutton! Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit, what a ride!" "Im happier than a tornado in a trailer park" - Tow Mater - Cars

March 20 2008, 12:12 AM	#72
Admiral Buzzkill The Man Location: Defying Gravity	Re: Star Ship Polaris Thanks. We don't have shields or forcefields. Best idea is not to get hit by weapons fire. The danger of hitting or being hit by anything in hyperspace is about nil. During travel within spacetime, we probably would have energy beams of some kind to sweep the path ahead with the emphasis on imparting a very low-energy "push" to small bits of matter at an extreme distance. __________________ I had steak and a loaded baked potato for dinner on Sunday. As a steak I enjoyed it a lot, but as macaroni and cheese I thought it was disappointing.

March 20 2008, 01:06 AM	#73
Kaiser Rear Admiral Location: Boyertown, PA as of July 2011	Re: Star Ship Polaris Whew Weee im liking the progress on this __________________ https://www.facebook.com/groups/112860258811333/ For all your Sci-fi ship model and mini goodness 3DS Friend code: 0731-4800-6817

March 20 2008, 02:14 AM	#74
Admiral Buzzkill The Man Location: Defying Gravity	Re: Star Ship Polaris Going to do something different with the weapons and the "spine," so they're missing from this one: The first version of the back ring looked a bit too squashed and twisted. __________________ I had steak and a loaded baked potato for dinner on Sunday. As a steak I enjoyed it a lot, but as macaroni and cheese I thought it was disappointing.

March 20 2008, 06:38 AM	#75
HRHTheKING Fleet Captain Location: Royal Estates	Re: Star Ship Polaris Great looking ship __________________ MAY GOD SAVE THE KING