Star Ship Polaris - Page 15

Admiral Buzzkill · December 18 2009, 04:58 PM

I've backed out of this except for suggestions at this point - my attempts to experiment in 3D with design refinements were not yielding a lot useful. It was at that point that I asked aridas and Vektor to work directly together. I kibitz on what I like and what I don't like so much, and at this point Vektor just comes up with a lot of cool stuff. When he's satisfied and I'm satisfied, I guess we'll figure out who's going to mesh and animate the ship.

One movie director once said that his job got a lot easier once he realized that people working with him were really smart and experienced and that when they asked him to make a choice - say, "red or blue?" for a prop - they'd already eliminated every bad choice, every option that just wouldn't work. His job was just to respond according to his taste.

Vektor · December 18 2009, 06:00 PM

I would love to build the model for the Polaris once the design is finalized, but I'm going to have to leave the animation work to someone else. I just don't have the time or the resources to pull that off. Although, I wouldn't mind having a hand in storyboarding the sequences if they haven't been already.

Admiral Buzzkill · December 18 2009, 06:10 PM

That's certainly something we should discuss then, Vektor. Your skills as a modeler are formidable. We'd have to work out issues that you've brought to my attention about conversions between formats, etc.

thesovereignman · December 18 2009, 06:19 PM

Dennis wrote:

That's certainly something we should discuss then, Vektor. Your skills as a modeler are formidable. We'd have to work out issues that you've brought to my attention about conversions between formats, etc.

the design is not finalized then?

Admiral Buzzkill · December 18 2009, 06:23 PM

Not entirely. First things first.

Vektor · February 1 2010, 08:01 PM

Now progressing to the 3D stage:

These are, of course, preliminary, with lots of parts and pieces yet to be added and lots of detailing to be done. Much of it is still subject to change but I felt it was time to move beyond the concept sketches, especially since Dennis and his team are starting to look at 3D assets for the effects work.

More to come.

Venardhi · February 1 2010, 09:05 PM

I can dig it.

Captain Robert April · February 1 2010, 09:25 PM

Could use some windows.

Vektor · February 1 2010, 09:38 PM

Captain Robert April wrote:

Could use some windows.

Yeah, well, those would be among those "details yet to be added" that I mentioned.

FalTorPan · February 1 2010, 09:43 PM

I love this design, and I'm eager to watch the completed movie!

USS Intrepid · February 1 2010, 09:47 PM

Sweet!

Psion · February 2 2010, 05:28 AM

It's amazing how much Star Trek sensibilities affect my expectations of spaceship design ... without the windows and other details you mentioned, I keep wondering why you're showing this ship tipped on it's side. Then I see that it's vertically-oriented like Probert's original Romulan ship.

I love it, but the guns (if that's what they are) look a little big to me. I can't wait to see the thing textured-up and animated!

FalTorPan · February 2 2010, 05:55 AM

^ Actually, unless things have changed, the Polaris' internal "up" is aligned with its external "forward," and its internal "down" is its external "aftward." If that is still true, than the ship's external notions of up, down, port and starboard are irrelevant with respect to the orientation of the internal forward/backward and leftward/rightward axes.

Professor Moriarty · February 2 2010, 06:01 AM

Definitely not like anything else out there, and that's GOOD. Can't wait to see some textures on this bad boy!

Vektor · February 2 2010, 06:03 AM

This is true. The only external cue to "right-side-up" will probably be the markings on the hull. Otherwise "up" for the people on board is toward the nose.

December 18 2009, 04:58 PM	#211
Admiral Buzzkill The Man Location: Defying Gravity	Re: Star Ship Polaris I've backed out of this except for suggestions at this point - my attempts to experiment in 3D with design refinements were not yielding a lot useful. It was at that point that I asked aridas and Vektor to work directly together. I kibitz on what I like and what I don't like so much, and at this point Vektor just comes up with a lot of cool stuff. When he's satisfied and I'm satisfied, I guess we'll figure out who's going to mesh and animate the ship. One movie director once said that his job got a lot easier once he realized that people working with him were really smart and experienced and that when they asked him to make a choice - say, "red or blue?" for a prop - they'd already eliminated every bad choice, every option that just wouldn't work. His job was just to respond according to his taste. __________________ I had steak and a loaded baked potato for dinner on Sunday. As a steak I enjoyed it a lot, but as macaroni and cheese I thought it was disappointing.

December 18 2009, 06:00 PM	#212
Vektor Rear Admiral Location: Spokane, WA, USA	Re: Star Ship Polaris I would love to build the model for the Polaris once the design is finalized, but I'm going to have to leave the animation work to someone else. I just don't have the time or the resources to pull that off. Although, I wouldn't mind having a hand in storyboarding the sequences if they haven't been already. __________________ www.vektorvisual.com

December 18 2009, 06:10 PM	#213
Admiral Buzzkill The Man Location: Defying Gravity	Re: Star Ship Polaris That's certainly something we should discuss then, Vektor. Your skills as a modeler are formidable. We'd have to work out issues that you've brought to my attention about conversions between formats, etc. __________________ I had steak and a loaded baked potato for dinner on Sunday. As a steak I enjoyed it a lot, but as macaroni and cheese I thought it was disappointing.

December 18 2009, 06:23 PM	#215
Admiral Buzzkill The Man Location: Defying Gravity	Re: Star Ship Polaris Not entirely. First things first. __________________ I had steak and a loaded baked potato for dinner on Sunday. As a steak I enjoyed it a lot, but as macaroni and cheese I thought it was disappointing.

February 1 2010, 08:01 PM	#216
Vektor Rear Admiral Location: Spokane, WA, USA	Re: Star Ship Polaris Now progressing to the 3D stage: These are, of course, preliminary, with lots of parts and pieces yet to be added and lots of detailing to be done. Much of it is still subject to change but I felt it was time to move beyond the concept sketches, especially since Dennis and his team are starting to look at 3D assets for the effects work. More to come. __________________ www.vektorvisual.com

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February 1 2010, 09:05 PM	#217
Venardhi Vice Admiral Location: Constant transit	Re: Star Ship Polaris I can dig it. __________________ "There is no reason why good cannot triumph as often as evil. The triumph of anything is a matter of organization. If there are such things as angels, I hope that they are organized along the lines of the Maffia." - Winston Niles Rumfoord.

February 1 2010, 09:25 PM	#218
Captain Robert April Vice Admiral Location: In selfless service to fandom, on the road to becoming a Star Trek trivia god...	Re: Star Ship Polaris Could use some windows.

February 1 2010, 09:43 PM	#220
FalTorPan Vice Admiral Location: Out there... thataway.	Re: Star Ship Polaris I love this design, and I'm eager to watch the completed movie! __________________ Watch ASTRONUTS! Visit Trekplace! Check out my personal website!

February 1 2010, 09:47 PM	#221
USS Intrepid Commodore Location: Dundee, Scotland, UK	Re: Star Ship Polaris Sweet! __________________ Star Trek: Intrepid

February 2 2010, 05:28 AM	#222
Psion Commodore Location: Lat: 40.1630936 Lon: -75.1183777	Re: Star Ship Polaris It's amazing how much Star Trek sensibilities affect my expectations of spaceship design ... without the windows and other details you mentioned, I keep wondering why you're showing this ship tipped on it's side. Then I see that it's vertically-oriented like Probert's original Romulan ship. I love it, but the guns (if that's what they are) look a little big to me. I can't wait to see the thing textured-up and animated! __________________ First delete the default cube.

February 2 2010, 05:55 AM	#223
FalTorPan Vice Admiral Location: Out there... thataway.	Re: Star Ship Polaris ^ Actually, unless things have changed, the Polaris' internal "up" is aligned with its external "forward," and its internal "down" is its external "aftward." If that is still true, than the ship's external notions of up, down, port and starboard are irrelevant with respect to the orientation of the internal forward/backward and leftward/rightward axes. __________________ Watch ASTRONUTS! Visit Trekplace! Check out my personal website!

February 2 2010, 06:01 AM	#224
Professor Moriarty Vice Admiral Location: Drifting in interspace	Re: Star Ship Polaris Definitely not like anything else out there, and that's GOOD. Can't wait to see some textures on this bad boy!

February 2 2010, 06:03 AM	#225
Vektor Rear Admiral Location: Spokane, WA, USA	Re: Star Ship Polaris This is true. The only external cue to "right-side-up" will probably be the markings on the hull. Otherwise "up" for the people on board is toward the nose. __________________ www.vektorvisual.com