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Old October 12 2009, 05:34 AM   #151
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Starship Polaris - Non-Trek

A long time ago, in a thread far, far away... and apparently long since pruned, Dennis Bailey once posted some renderings of a ship he was working on for an independent film production called Starship Polaris. The original design was conceived by TrekBBS's own Aridas Sofia with whom Dennis had been collaborating from the earliest stages of the project. Late last year, they asked me to help refine it and I started working on a series of design sketches. This is the latest version:



The film project is well under way with studio space having been secured and sets under construction. They are due to begin principle photography in about two months. All the details about the production, including background info, casting news and set photos can be found on the Starship Polaris Official Site. There is also a Polaris thread in the Fan Productions forum here on TrekBBS.

My own work on the project is ongoing. I'll be posting more sketches here in the next couple of days but in the mean time, everything I've done so far can be seen on my own Website at www.VektorVisual.com.

As always, comments and criticisms are appreciated.
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Old October 12 2009, 12:36 PM   #152
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I've been following Dennis' Polaris project for awhile now, and your work on it, of course. I like how you've taken the original concept and "turned it on its ear", literally. I have to admit, I sort of liked the "fins" on the previous rendition, but this looks very good and very "utilitarian", which I think is a positive.

Would it be out of place of me to also mention that it looks quite a lot like a Yellow Tang to me?

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...a%3DN%26um%3D1

Especially in the second picture. Any chance that had anything to do with your inspiration ..., or was it just happenstance? Or am I just seeing things?
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Old October 12 2009, 01:59 PM   #153
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Very awesome art there
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Old October 12 2009, 04:06 PM   #154
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I like how you've taken the original concept and "turned it on its ear", literally. I have to admit, I sort of liked the "fins" on the previous rendition, but this looks very good and very "utilitarian", which I think is a positive.
Turning the saucer on-edge rather than horizontal was an inspired choice, if I do say so. There had been some early requests to introduce some "nautical elements" to the design, hence the "sails" shown in previous versions, but the vertical orientation was part of that, too. Eventually I got to wondering if that was enough without the addition of the sails and I think it is, but Dennis and Company may decide differently.

By "fins," are you referring to the sails or to the bulkier engine assemblies in the last batch of sketches?

Would it be out of place of me to also mention that it looks quite a lot like a Yellow Tang to me?

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...a%3DN%26um%3D1

Especially in the second picture. Any chance that had anything to do with your inspiration ..., or was it just happenstance? Or am I just seeing things?
No inspiration from the Yellow Tang, I'm afraid, though I do see the resemblance. I'd have to say it was inspired more by 1950's automotive design, which will become even more evident in future sketches.
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Old October 12 2009, 06:46 PM   #155
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Make the middle part spin and you've got Spock's jellyfish ship in JJ's movie.
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Old October 12 2009, 07:08 PM   #156
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Like Captain April, I see a bit of the Jellyfish in there, too. Of course, if you change things again, we're likely to see a resemblance to something else, so take such remarks with a minuscule quantity of sodium chloride.
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Old October 12 2009, 07:53 PM   #157
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You know, before I turned this thing on-edge, nobody even mentioned Spock's Jellyfish. I think the supposed similarity mostly comes down to the vertical disc motif. The Jellyfish isn't even a disc, really; it's a flattened mushroom cap with a spinning ring behind it and a tuning fork tail.

I don't really care one way or the other, especially since the basic design of the Polaris far predates the latest Trek film, and this version is actually closer to that original design, other than the vertical orientation, than anything else I've done since. If you think the design is too close to the Jellyfish, take it up with Ryan Church.
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Old October 12 2009, 08:07 PM   #158
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I too, see inspiration from the Jellyfish. But I like the look of this ship better.
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Old October 12 2009, 08:08 PM   #159
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Neat looking ship in any case.
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Old October 12 2009, 08:18 PM   #160
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Spocks Jellyfish was inspired by this ship not the other way around.
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Old October 13 2009, 01:00 AM   #161
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Greetings, Earthlings...

Vektor mentioned this thread, saying it was gone (I believe the word "pruned" was used). I managed to find it and hopefully wake it up from its 16 month coma...
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Old October 13 2009, 01:04 AM   #162
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Well, son of a gun. It eluded my best efforts to track it down. Unfortunately, now I have to decide which thread to update. No sense keeping them both open.
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Old October 13 2009, 04:53 PM   #163
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Ask and ye shall receive. Ptrope has helpfully merged the thread I started into the original thread from a year and a half ago. All future updates will be posted here.
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Old October 16 2009, 12:08 AM   #164
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So, after the latest round of coordination with Dennis, the "sails" have been restored to the design for the Polaris. I had a backup plan in case he decided to go that way and I have to say I'm glad he did. I liked the version without the sails but I like this even better.



I decided to try to have the best of both worlds by making the sails transformational. Ordinarily, they are folded back in a standby position like you see above, but they can also rotate forward into a "deployed" position, probably when the ship is about to jump into hyperspace.



The Starship Polaris script refers to "hyperspace sails" and a "drive grid." This is my interpretation of those concepts, with the "drive grid" being the glowing blue arrays on the inside surfaces of the sails.

Other refinements to these latest sketches include some changes to the main engines. Again, per Dennis' request, I eliminated the bullet-shaped front ends of the engine housings and created more of an integrated, backswept "shoulder" profile similar to a version he preferred in one of the earlier sketches.

Dennis is reviewing these as I type, so we'll see whether this turns out to be the final version or if I have some more tinkering to do. I'm having so much fun with it that I'm cool either way.
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Old October 16 2009, 01:33 AM   #165
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now that's awesome.
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