Another fan attempt at TOS deck plans - Page 71

USS Mariner · June 11 2009, 08:27 PM

Look upthread.

Shaw · June 11 2009, 09:01 PM

The Smithsonian released a number of images that had not been seen before... one of the best shows an X-ray of the rear of the secondary hull (which includes a light bulb socket, using a modern energy saving bulb... which also generates less heat). Most of what is seen there was already visible in other photos through the hole behind the hangar bay door, but what was new (for me at least) was the way the underside of the fantail had been mounted on the model.

The model was always lit with conventional lights (including what were standard Christmas Tree lights for the 60s and 70s), and this posed an issue for anyone wanting to display the model for any length of time. The model was filmed in short runs and then turned off because the lights effected the model once they got hot. As I recall, 5 minutes was about the max the model could handle before warping occurred.

The original solution was to put weak lights in the model (1974 to 1991), but since the major restoration I believe a better lighting system was used in key areas (better as in brighter and not as hot).

But yeah, a single bulb supplied all the light for the rear of the secondary hull (other than the blinking light on the side). Clear rods were used to help direct the light to where it was needed. The same technique was used all over the model.

Tallguy · June 11 2009, 10:07 PM

After seeing the condition they received it in I will never say anything bad about ANY of the Smithsonian restorations.

Captain Robert April · June 12 2009, 02:57 AM

Well, at least their hearts were in the right place.

And they did promise to start posting more pics of the ol' girl, so it's all good.

doctorwho 03 · June 20 2009, 04:41 AM

I had a thought about the bridge the other day (and it does not involve the rotation issue). I was browsing through the old 'Mr. Scott's Guide to the Enterprise' when I noticed the aft docking port and airlock on the bridge schematic. Right beside the docking port was a lavatory. This got me thinking; that docking port and toilet lines up almost perfectly with the 'turbolift nub' on the original Enterprise. Then I thought what if the nub was not part of the turbolifts at all, but rather it's where the bridge toilet was located. There must've been one, so that bridge personnel didn't have to go to another deck to find a head, right?

Is there any logic to this, or have I been hitting the Saurian Brandy a little hard today? Any thoughts?

Birdog · June 20 2009, 04:43 AM

doctorwho 03 wrote:

I had a thought about the bridge the other day (and it does not involve the rotation issue). I was browsing through the old 'Mr. Scott's Guide to the Enterprise' when I noticed the aft docking port and airlock on the bridge schematic. Right beside the docking port was a lavatory. This got me thinking; that docking port and toilet lines up almost perfectly with the 'turbolift nub' on the original Enterprise. Then I thought what if the nub was not part of the turbolifts at all, but rather it's where the bridge toilet was located. There must've been one, so that bridge personnel didn't have to go to another deck to find a head, right?

Is there any logic to this, or have I been hitting the Saurian Brandy a little hard today? Any thoughts?

I like that idea. How did they get to it?

Herkimer Jitty · June 20 2009, 05:58 AM

They crawled underneath Uhura's console on their backs.

Birdog · June 20 2009, 06:16 AM

Herkimer Jitty wrote:

They crawled underneath Uhura's console on their backs.

Kinda brings a whole new meaning to the term "Going to the head"

doctorwho 03 · June 20 2009, 09:21 PM

According to the 'Mr. Scott's Guide to the Enterprise', the portside turbolift would rotate in the shaft to access the docking port/head on the refit E. If the nub is indeed the toilet, I'm guessing the TOS turbolift would do the same thing.

Captain Robert April · June 24 2009, 02:23 AM

I ran with the idea that the nub was the subspace tranceiver array, but the head works, too. Maybe even better, if only because of that diagram (helps establish the design lineage).

FalTorPan · June 24 2009, 02:33 AM

Captain Robert April wrote:

I ran with the idea that the nub was the subspace tranceiver array, but the head works, too. Maybe even better, if only because of that diagram (helps establish the design lineage).

It's a futuristic outhouse... because it's round.

Captain Robert April · June 24 2009, 02:49 AM

Let's just hope the soundproofing and ventilation doesn't break down, if only for Uhura's sake.

Herkimer Jitty · June 24 2009, 05:27 AM

Uuuuh... you do know what those vents under the bridge consoles are for, right? (Emergency air fresheners).

Captain Robert April · June 25 2009, 03:53 AM

Then (Insert favority deity here) help the bridge crew if that backs up and somebody just had an Arcturian burrito.

CuttingEdge100 · June 25 2009, 07:33 PM

Robert April,

Hahahahahaha!

June 11 2009, 08:27 PM	#1051
USS Mariner Rear Admiral Location: Homestate of Matt Jefferies	Re: Another fan attempt at TOS deck plans Look upthread. __________________ Ignorance is forgivable, Arrogance is reprehensible, Narcissism is intolerable. *Subspace Commns Network* ~ Visit Marinina!

June 11 2009, 09:01 PM	#1052
Shaw Commodore Location: Twin Cities	Re: Another fan attempt at TOS deck plans The Smithsonian released a number of images that had not been seen before... one of the best shows an X-ray of the rear of the secondary hull (which includes a light bulb socket, using a modern energy saving bulb... which also generates less heat). Most of what is seen there was already visible in other photos through the hole behind the hangar bay door, but what was new (for me at least) was the way the underside of the fantail had been mounted on the model. The model was always lit with conventional lights (including what were standard Christmas Tree lights for the 60s and 70s), and this posed an issue for anyone wanting to display the model for any length of time. The model was filmed in short runs and then turned off because the lights effected the model once they got hot. As I recall, 5 minutes was about the max the model could handle before warping occurred. The original solution was to put weak lights in the model (1974 to 1991), but since the major restoration I believe a better lighting system was used in key areas (better as in brighter and not as hot). But yeah, a single bulb supplied all the light for the rear of the secondary hull (other than the blinking light on the side). Clear rods were used to help direct the light to where it was needed. The same technique was used all over the model.

June 11 2009, 10:07 PM	#1053
Tallguy Fleet Captain Location: Phoenix, AZ	Re: Another fan attempt at TOS deck plans After seeing the condition they received it in I will never say anything bad about ANY of the Smithsonian restorations. __________________ *-- Bill "Tallguy" Thomas* "All I ask is a tall ship..."

June 12 2009, 02:57 AM	#1054
Captain Robert April Vice Admiral Location: In selfless service to fandom, on the road to becoming a Star Trek trivia god...	Re: Another fan attempt at TOS deck plans Well, at least their hearts were in the right place. And they did promise to start posting more pics of the ol' girl, so it's all good.

June 20 2009, 04:41 AM	#1055
doctorwho 03 Captain Location: In my TARDIS	Re: Another fan attempt at TOS deck plans I had a thought about the bridge the other day (and it does not involve the rotation issue). I was browsing through the old 'Mr. Scott's Guide to the Enterprise' when I noticed the aft docking port and airlock on the bridge schematic. Right beside the docking port was a lavatory. This got me thinking; that docking port and toilet lines up almost perfectly with the 'turbolift nub' on the original Enterprise. Then I thought what if the nub was not part of the turbolifts at all, but rather it's where the bridge toilet was located. There must've been one, so that bridge personnel didn't have to go to another deck to find a head, right? Is there any logic to this, or have I been hitting the Saurian Brandy a little hard today? Any thoughts? __________________ Logic merely enables one to be wrong with authority. - Patrick Troughton "Doctor Who: The Wheel in Space" Visit my Youtube Channel: http://www.youtube.com/doctorwho03

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June 20 2009, 05:58 AM	#1057
Herkimer Jitty Rear Admiral Location: Herkimer Jitty	Re: Another fan attempt at TOS deck plans They crawled underneath Uhura's console on their backs. __________________ Fans are like space heaters. All we have to offer is hot air.

June 20 2009, 09:21 PM	#1059
doctorwho 03 Captain Location: In my TARDIS	Re: Another fan attempt at TOS deck plans According to the 'Mr. Scott's Guide to the Enterprise', the portside turbolift would rotate in the shaft to access the docking port/head on the refit E. If the nub is indeed the toilet, I'm guessing the TOS turbolift would do the same thing. __________________ Logic merely enables one to be wrong with authority. - Patrick Troughton "Doctor Who: The Wheel in Space" Visit my Youtube Channel: http://www.youtube.com/doctorwho03

June 24 2009, 02:23 AM	#1060
Captain Robert April Vice Admiral Location: In selfless service to fandom, on the road to becoming a Star Trek trivia god...	Re: Another fan attempt at TOS deck plans I ran with the idea that the nub was the subspace tranceiver array, but the head works, too. Maybe even better, if only because of that diagram (helps establish the design lineage).

June 24 2009, 02:49 AM	#1062
Captain Robert April Vice Admiral Location: In selfless service to fandom, on the road to becoming a Star Trek trivia god...	Re: Another fan attempt at TOS deck plans Let's just hope the soundproofing and ventilation doesn't break down, if only for Uhura's sake.

June 24 2009, 05:27 AM	#1063
Herkimer Jitty Rear Admiral Location: Herkimer Jitty	Re: Another fan attempt at TOS deck plans Uuuuh... you do know what those vents under the bridge consoles are for, right? (Emergency air fresheners). __________________ Fans are like space heaters. All we have to offer is hot air.

June 25 2009, 03:53 AM	#1064
Captain Robert April Vice Admiral Location: In selfless service to fandom, on the road to becoming a Star Trek trivia god...	Re: Another fan attempt at TOS deck plans Then (Insert favority deity here) help the bridge crew if that backs up and somebody just had an Arcturian burrito.

June 25 2009, 07:33 PM	#1065
CuttingEdge100 Commodore	Re: Another fan attempt at TOS deck plans Robert April, Hahahahahaha!