Another fan attempt at TOS deck plans - Page 66

Praetor · April 16 2009, 06:13 PM

Archaeology and anthropology it was for dear Apollo-seduced Palamas, CRA.

Shaw · April 17 2009, 05:21 AM

I thought I had posted something like this, but as it turned out what I had posted was pretty small and mixed in with a lot of my illustrations (though the reference scale was there to work from)... so here is a slightly larger version of some of the raw set plans all to scale with each other on a 10 foot by 10 foot grid.

Click to enlarge

This is obviously not the final diagrams I'm working on, which will be cleaner and easier to work with... sorta looking like this.

As stated from day one, the sizes of the sets are locked to their original sizes (the sizes that we see on screen), though some angles might change depending on how far out from the center a room is placed (and I'll try to provide a variety for some rooms when I redraw them). The goal for me has been to see if the sets will fit without alteration into the Enterprise... basically to see just how far Jefferies thought all of this through (and that has never changed).

These are basically what I was working from for all of my sketches (even the first sketch) when attempting to see how things might fit together, though DS9Sega's Forward Phaser Control would be a better version than the one included above.

Tallguy · April 17 2009, 03:16 PM

Oh that's nice. It's the sort of thing that's so obvious I'm amazed we haven't seen it before. Where the heck was that briefing room table sketch when I was trying to make mine!?

TIN_MAN · April 17 2009, 06:48 PM

Yeah, it's nice to have all those in one convenient place rather than all over the place, like my original copies. Quick question, slightly off topic though, does anybody know what that triangular thing is in Dr. McCoy's lab, to my knowledge, we never actually saw it on set in any episode? It looks like a table or a free standing cabinet of some sort and it seems to have 'doors' or panels of some sort on it's sides?

Praetor · April 17 2009, 07:02 PM

Wow, Shaw.

USS Mariner · April 20 2009, 02:38 AM

Thanks for the scaled comparison shot of the set plans. By the way, how much hair did you pull out when you made that collage?

(FYI, trying to match the scales of the blueprint scans is a really fast way to commit brain cell genocide.)

Nimitz CO · April 20 2009, 04:55 AM

Hi Shaw,

I just found this link http://www.3dbuzz.com/vbforum/showthread.php?t=175366 that I thought might help you with your project. This talented individual it attempting to do the deck plans for the TOS Enterprise, I hope that you find it helpfull

Shaw · April 20 2009, 05:46 AM

USS Mariner wrote:

Thanks for the scaled comparison shot of the set plans. By the way, how much hair did you pull out when you made that collage?

(FYI, trying to match the scales of the blueprint scans is a really fast way to commit brain cell genocide.)

Well, I had started in on it last year (which was why I thought I had posted it). But when I went looking for it in this thread (and on my site) I realized I had stopped part way through (because it was such a pain).

I'm constantly going back over my posted sketches because it is easier to find those concepts and ideas in this thread than hunting through thousands of files on my system. And even if I didn't post everything I was working on at the time, I can at least narrow down the search of my system to a date range. So it was surprising when I realized I hadn't finished (or posted what I had started).

But thankfully I didn't have a lot of hair to start with.

Nimitz CO wrote:

I just found this link http://www.3dbuzz.com/vbforum/showthread.php?t=175366 that I thought might help you with your project. This talented individual it attempting to do the deck plans for the TOS Enterprise, I hope that you find it helpfull

Thanks for the link. I love seeing other people's approaches towards visualizing this type of thing. I've even been considering BrookeStephen's VRML method... when I have more time and when I get my SGI Indigo 2 back up and running again (as I had a bunch of VRML authoring software for that system as I recall).

TIN_MAN · April 20 2009, 05:46 AM

Nimitz CO wrote:

Hi Shaw,

I just found this link http://www.3dbuzz.com/vbforum/showthread.php?t=175366 that I thought might help you with your project. This talented individual it attempting to do the deck plans for the TOS Enterprise, I hope that you find it helpfull

Hoover DAM! that's cool, Nimitz CO. But I bet BrookeStephen will find it most useful, especially the bowling alley.

doctorwho 03 · April 20 2009, 07:31 PM

Nimitz CO wrote:

Hi Shaw,

I just found this link http://www.3dbuzz.com/vbforum/showthread.php?t=175366 that I thought might help you with your project. This talented individual it attempting to do the deck plans for the TOS Enterprise, I hope that you find it helpfull

<Frank Barone> Holy Crap! </Frank Barone> This guy is good!

BrookeStephen · April 20 2009, 11:55 PM

Nimitz CO wrote:

Hi Shaw,

I just found this link http://www.3dbuzz.com/vbforum/showthread.php?t=175366 that I thought might help you with your project. This talented individual it attempting to do the deck plans for the TOS Enterprise, I hope that you find it helpfull

Now THAT guy is my kind of nutjob!! LOL
Beautiful work - even while it's in the editor it looks nice!
We need him on our BBS!
Who's gonna recruit him?
Hurry up! Quicker!

Captain Robert April · April 21 2009, 01:02 AM

I just wish I could do that with my plans.

TIN_MAN · April 21 2009, 01:24 AM

Brookestephen, I would recruit him, but I'd have to register at 3d buzz, an I'm too lazy, so I'll pass. That reminds me, does anyone know where I can get a self clicking mouse?

BrookeStephen · April 21 2009, 10:07 PM

Captain Robert April wrote:

I just wish I could do that with my plans.

OMG
You goofy guy - I've been volunteering to help anyone who wants to do that - in VRML - and no one takes advantage! LOL

USS Mariner · April 21 2009, 10:44 PM

Shaw wrote:

USS Mariner wrote:

Links, please. As little confidence as I put in JJ, this sounds suspect.

Well, as I was expressing my opinion (and what it was based on) and not trying to shape anyone else's (seeing as people reach their own conclusions just fine without my help), I don't see why it would matter one way or the other how I got the information.

But if it matters that much to ya (and my accounting of information like this doesn't stand on it's own), maybe this will meet your standards...

John Eaves, March 16, 2009 at 1:15 pm
I did make it on the new one!!! My friend Geoffry Mandell and I were some of the only folks that worked on any of the previous Treks to get on the new one. One day Geoff had to scale the Enterprise and he did so by picturing the new ship in comparison to the previous ships,, He was let go the next day for being to attached and close to the older shows,,,,, I stayed very very quiet after that dark day I can tell you!!! HAAAA!

Or maybe not.

Should I start providing links for everything I post now? I wasn't aware that my credit had dropped that low.

BTW, this link is now dead. I hope someone decided to save this page before it got deleted....

April 16 2009, 06:13 PM	#976
Praetor Vice Admiral Location: Totally different head. Totally.	Re: Another fan attempt at TOS deck plans Archaeology and anthropology it was for dear Apollo-seduced Palamas, CRA. __________________ "Dude, put the blasty thing down, and have a toke on this baby." - 420 Kirk.

April 17 2009, 05:21 AM	#977
Shaw Commodore Location: Twin Cities	Re: Another fan attempt at TOS deck plans I thought I had posted something like this, but as it turned out what I had posted was pretty small and mixed in with a lot of my illustrations (though the reference scale was there to work from)... so here is a slightly larger version of some of the raw set plans all to scale with each other on a 10 foot by 10 foot grid. Click to enlarge This is obviously not the final diagrams I'm working on, which will be cleaner and easier to work with... sorta looking like this. As stated from day one, the sizes of the sets are locked to their original sizes (the sizes that we see on screen), though some angles might change depending on how far out from the center a room is placed (and I'll try to provide a variety for some rooms when I redraw them). The goal for me has been to see if the sets will fit without alteration into the Enterprise... basically to see just how far Jefferies thought all of this through (and that has never changed). These are basically what I was working from for all of my sketches (even the first sketch) when attempting to see how things might fit together, though DS9Sega's Forward Phaser Control would be a better version than the one included above.

April 17 2009, 03:16 PM	#978
Tallguy Fleet Captain Location: Phoenix, AZ	Re: Another fan attempt at TOS deck plans Oh that's nice. It's the sort of thing that's so obvious I'm amazed we haven't seen it before. Where the heck was that briefing room table sketch when I was trying to make mine!? __________________ *-- Bill "Tallguy" Thomas* "All I ask is a tall ship..."

April 17 2009, 06:48 PM	#979
TIN_MAN Fleet Captain	Re: Another fan attempt at TOS deck plans Yeah, it's nice to have all those in one convenient place rather than all over the place, like my original copies. Quick question, slightly off topic though, does anybody know what that triangular thing is in Dr. McCoy's lab, to my knowledge, we never actually saw it on set in any episode? It looks like a table or a free standing cabinet of some sort and it seems to have 'doors' or panels of some sort on it's sides?

April 17 2009, 07:02 PM	#980
Praetor Vice Admiral Location: Totally different head. Totally.	Re: Another fan attempt at TOS deck plans Wow, Shaw. __________________ "Dude, put the blasty thing down, and have a toke on this baby." - 420 Kirk.

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April 20 2009, 02:38 AM	#981
USS Mariner Rear Admiral Location: Homestate of Matt Jefferies	Re: Another fan attempt at TOS deck plans Thanks for the scaled comparison shot of the set plans. By the way, how much hair did you pull out when you made that collage? (FYI, trying to match the scales of the blueprint scans is a really fast way to commit brain cell genocide.) __________________ Ignorance is forgivable, Arrogance is reprehensible, Narcissism is intolerable. *Subspace Commns Network* ~ Visit Marinina!

April 20 2009, 04:55 AM	#982
Nimitz CO Lieutenant Commander Location: Arizona	Re: Another fan attempt at TOS deck plans Hi Shaw, I just found this link http://www.3dbuzz.com/vbforum/showthread.php?t=175366 that I thought might help you with your project. This talented individual it attempting to do the deck plans for the TOS Enterprise, I hope that you find it helpfull

April 21 2009, 01:02 AM	#987
Captain Robert April Vice Admiral Location: In selfless service to fandom, on the road to becoming a Star Trek trivia god...	Re: Another fan attempt at TOS deck plans I just wish I could do that with my plans.

April 21 2009, 01:24 AM	#988
TIN_MAN Fleet Captain	Re: Another fan attempt at TOS deck plans Brookestephen, I would recruit him, but I'd have to register at 3d buzz, an I'm too lazy, so I'll pass. That reminds me, does anyone know where I can get a self clicking mouse?