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Old March 29 2008, 10:24 AM   #316
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Re: Another fan attempt at TOS deck plans

You know, I'm sure this isn't an original thought, but one thing that occurred to me about the "windows" in places that don't make sense (practically on the floor for intance) is that they might be windows for equipment, not for scenery. Sensors and telescopes and stuff peeking out through these.
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Old March 29 2008, 01:01 PM   #317
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You know, I'm sure this isn't an original thought, but one thing that occurred to me about the "windows" in places that don't make sense (practically on the floor for intance) is that they might be windows for equipment, not for scenery. Sensors and telescopes and stuff peeking out through these.
That makes Sense Could it be that some of those are RCS Thrusters
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Old March 29 2008, 02:33 PM   #318
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That makes Sense Could it be that some of those are RCS Thrusters
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Old March 29 2008, 08:53 PM   #319
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I think sensors are more likely. We're talking some pretty weird locations for thrusters.
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Old March 29 2008, 11:41 PM   #320
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Well, I'm guessing that you guys noticed that I left that area of the one compartment I did earlier open... and that was because the windows didn't match anything seen on screen. I had hoped that the windows designed into Kirk's cabin (and partially seen in a few early episodes) would have matched those on the model. Sadly they didn't.

But I was playing around with the idea of what might be in that part of the ship, and this was what I came up with...


Something like an open commons area... specially for crew members who don't have their own office area in their cabins. As for the portholes... I'm not sure what they are, but I'm most likely not including them as standard windows of any type.
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Old March 30 2008, 06:47 AM   #321
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Backup navigational deflectors, perhaps? Or forward sensor array?
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Old March 30 2008, 09:00 AM   #322
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Maybe those windows are in those positions because the First Federation, Ewoks and Jawas all filed a Class Action Discrimination Lawsuit against Starfleet...

As PC as the Federation is, they would have been tripping over themselves to put in those windows for fear of offending anybody...
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Old March 30 2008, 11:04 AM   #323
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Ah yes, the campaign for equal heights...
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Old March 30 2008, 02:11 PM   #324
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I think sensors are more likely. We're talking some pretty weird locations for thrusters.
Well they don't all have to be Thrusters Just the ones that would make sense to have that function a little.
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Old March 31 2008, 07:35 PM   #325
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Well, I'm guessing that you guys noticed that I left that area of the one compartment I did earlier open... and that was because the windows didn't match anything seen on screen. I had hoped that the windows designed into Kirk's cabin (and partially seen in a few early episodes) would have matched those on the model. Sadly they didn't.
You've mentioned this several times, but I know not what you're referring to. What windows in Kirks quarters? In which episodes?
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Old April 1 2008, 12:50 AM   #326
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You've mentioned this several times, but I know not what you're referring to. What windows in Kirks quarters? In which episodes?
They were only seen in the first few filmed episodes, and then only indirectly. They were most likely dropped due to budget issues (producing a star field or the like) and because they were quite a bit smaller than the windows on the model.

Below is a few screen shots of the windows when visible and the original placement of the windows on the set drawings.


If we assume that my illustration of the windows in my previous post are pretty close to scale with the 11 foot model, then these windows don't even come close to matching any of the windows along the edge of the primary hull.
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Old April 1 2008, 01:28 AM   #327
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Oh right. Now I remember.

I doubt it was budget from the standpoint of building a starfield...that's pretty easy to do and cheap, especially if you don't want it to move. Maybe it related to the time it would take to get the lighting and exposure right, or maybe somone realized that the ship at warp shots would have moving stars that wouldn't match a stationary starfield in the windows.
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Old April 1 2008, 04:34 AM   #328
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Marvel No-Prize Treatment Time!

Those aren't windows, they're user variable viewscreens that can be used to simulate windows and present whatever environment the occupants wishes to view, either a starfield, a green meadow, painted desert, a howling box canyon on Rigel XII, whatever.

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Old April 1 2008, 04:36 AM   #329
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And, of course, Green Orion Slave Woman Porn!

But, ya know, Uhura sees everyone's subspace cable charges.
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Old April 1 2008, 04:42 AM   #330
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I suppose you could say these aren't windows but holographic screens, to help open up the room a bit and guard against claustrophobia. It's a stretch, but better than trying to match it to the exterior windows and it frees the windows on the saucer perimeter for common areas.
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