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Old January 23 2008, 12:41 AM   #16
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Re: What Enterprise is better design? (final)

REFIT
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Old January 23 2008, 12:49 AM   #17
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Re: What Enterprise is better design? (final)

The Reliant being my favorite starship of all time, I would have to give my vote to the refit. However, If we're talking interiors, I'd have to go with the big blue flying picnic table every time.
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Old January 23 2008, 02:37 AM   #18
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Re: What Enterprise is better design? (final)

Galaxy, I love the refit, of course, but I have a lot of nostalgia for the Enterprise D, just seeing clips of her cruising through space gives me a good feeling. We had a lot more screen time of her than we did the refit.
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Old January 23 2008, 02:43 AM   #19
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Re: What Enterprise is better design? (final)

Refit.

Still my favorite starship design, hands down.
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Old January 23 2008, 02:51 AM   #20
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Re: What Enterprise is better design? (final)

Seeing people's responses I wonder how many of those who voted for the Galaxy-Class became Trek fans via Next Generation? Because polls like this remind me of the "Who is your favorite Doctor" question that comes up among Dr Who fans. In that case most people's favorite Doctor is generally whoever was the Doctor when they started watching. It makes sense that people's favorite Enterprise is the one that was the current version when they became a fan. Just a thought.
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Old January 23 2008, 04:03 AM   #21
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Re: What Enterprise is better design? (final)

^^then understandably my favorite is the Refit Connie.

i still like the Galaxy, but as i've matured i've noticed several deep design flaws both in the exterior and the interior that glare at me whenever i see it. the nacelles are too low, like someone sat on them. if the seconardy hull and pylons arched up more, bringing the nacelles to just above the centerline of the saucer, the ship would look much better.

and the interior, mainly the bridge, there needs to be more stations to the sides, and the captain needs a more commanding view. as it is, all the captain can really see is the biggest damn flatscreen tv ever, the backs of the heads of the conn and ops officers, and whatever concerned or dramatic expressions that the first officer and counselor are wearing.

the refit Connie have the same basic lines and proportions as Matt Jeffries ground-shattering design, updated with realistic detail and lighting. (the updated nacelles i don't like as much, but hey, nothing is perfect)
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Old January 23 2008, 05:04 AM   #22
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The TMP Refit is basically the 1964 Cage pre production design. It had the nacelles, and pylons that were given to the Enterprise-E. The saucer itself was the TOS thickness.

I don't like the TMP's nacelles. They should have stuck with the Phase II movie idea (lower the height, and increase the length of the TOS nacelles; and keep the TOS thickness. then add TMP detailing).

but...

I can't believe the Galaxy won the last time. GAG

But...

This time the Connie TMP Refit wins. :thumbsup:
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Old January 23 2008, 07:10 AM   #23
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Re: What Enterprise is better design? (final)

The refit is a classy lady. The D is a tramp.
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Old January 23 2008, 08:13 AM   #24
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Re: What Enterprise is better design? (final)

Holytomato said:
The TMP Refit is basically the 1964 Cage pre production design.
On what are you basing this? I hope it's not the sketch in the TOS sketchbook identified as the final design, which clearly has "77" marked on it!
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Old January 23 2008, 09:51 AM   #25
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Re: What Enterprise is better design? (final)

Refit - it always perturbed me that they never featured the connie refit in TNG, there were plenty of miranda variants. All we got was the model in Picards ready room in season 1 with the nacelles at 90degrees!
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Old January 23 2008, 09:56 AM   #26
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I voted refit.

Everything about the Galaxy class (Too many windows ,Nice carpeted interiors, Kids, Boldly staying within the borders of the Federation) screams vacation cruise liner to me.
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Old January 23 2008, 06:42 PM   #27
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This is a easy vote for me. I voted for Refit my favorite.
Galaxy is alright, personally i really like the Neck section in Galaxy.
Refit is classic design, but my biggest problem with it is thin neck line.
Actually i took my time(30 min) to kit-bash Refit with Galaxy type neck. The connection between saucer and engineering it much stronger and allows more routes between those 2 parts.
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Old January 23 2008, 07:45 PM   #28
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Re: What Enterprise is better design? (final)

"All we got was the model in Picards ready room in season 1 with the nacelles at 90degrees!"

Geordi's model was this. Picard's model was what we see in "The Battle."

Originally the Stargazer was going to be a Constitution Class.

But then someone reminded them of Picard's model. So Geordi says, "Constellation Class" but if you read his lips he says "Constitution".

Flashforward to DS9's "Trials and Tribblations". :Cheer:
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Old January 23 2008, 09:28 PM   #29
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Refit - hands down - no contest.
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Old January 23 2008, 09:58 PM   #30
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The Refit and only the Refit.
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