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Old January 23 2008, 04:15 AM   #1
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Bumpy Headed Klingons in Star Trek XI?

If Trek XI has Klingons, what kind will they use? Will it respect Star Trek Enterprise's continuity explanation?
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Old January 23 2008, 04:21 AM   #2
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Re: Bumpy Headed Klingons in Star Trek XI?

If there are Klingons I'm guessing they'll look like the Movie Klingons or possibly the TNG Klingons. (The movie klingons only have a bumpy forehead, but not the nose)

The whole Klingon-head issue was always a bit of a *wink wink* affair anyway.

My guess is that there'll be at least a few token klingons.
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Old January 23 2008, 04:27 AM   #3
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Re: Bumpy Headed Klingons in Star Trek XI?

Nope.

TMP, Search for Spock, The Voyage Home, The Final Frontier, The Undiscovered Country, TNG Season 1, TNG Season 2, TNG Season 3, TNG Season 4, TNG Season 5, TNG Season 6, TNG Season 7, Generations, First Contact, Insurrection, Nemesis, DS9 Seasons 1, DS9 Season 2, DS9 Season 3, DS9 Season 4, DS9 Season 5 ,6, 7, Voyager Season 1, Voyager Season 2, Voyager Season 3, Voyager Season 4, Voyager Season 5, Voyager Season 6, and Voyager Season 7, didn't. Why should Star Trek XI?

Enterprise had Bumpy headed Klingons. It didn't respect TOS's continuity. Nor did TMP, Search for Spock, The Voyage Home, The Final Frontier, The Undiscovered Country, TNG Season 1, TNG Season 2, TNG Season 3, TNG Season 4, TNG Season 5, TNG Season 6, TNG Season 7, Generations, First Contact, Insurrection, Nemesis, DS9 Seasons 1, DS9 Season 2, DS9 Season 3, DS9 Season 4, DS9 Season 5 ,6, 7, Voyager Season 1, Voyager Season 2, Voyager Season 3, Voyager Season 4, Voyager Season 5, Voyager Season 6, and Voyager Season 7, didn't. Why should Star Trek XI?

"Klingon's had a virus that made them go from bumpy to flat headed like us!? Screw this! We want more Kirk! We want more Spock! We want more..."

Roddenberry TMP: "Klingons always had bumpy foreheads."

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Old January 23 2008, 04:37 AM   #4
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Re: Bumpy Headed Klingons in Star Trek XI?

The bumps were "cloaked" in TOS.

Yeah...that's it...move along...
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Old January 23 2008, 04:45 AM   #5
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Re: Bumpy Headed Klingons in Star Trek XI?

It has never been said that ALL Klingons got the Phlox injection.

It's fanboy speculation to say that the entire empire had flat heads.
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Old January 23 2008, 08:30 AM   #6
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Re: Bumpy Headed Klingons in Star Trek XI?

There might be both kinds.
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Old January 23 2008, 08:54 AM   #7
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...And with John M. Ford, another, Klingon/Romulan fusion.

I always liked his version of that.
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Old January 23 2008, 09:24 AM   #8
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Re: Bumpy Headed Klingons in Star Trek XI?

They can have either or both types of Klingon. It doesn't matter. The explanation offered by ENT covers it either way.
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Old January 23 2008, 09:33 AM   #9
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Re: Bumpy Headed Klingons in Star Trek XI?

Nobody wants to be associated with failure - so I doubt they will do more than lipservice for the same group of fans that watched ENT.
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Old January 23 2008, 09:48 AM   #10
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Re: Bumpy Headed Klingons in Star Trek XI?

Any type of Klingon showing up on this movie doesn't associate the movie with ENT. The way it was handled on ENT both types of Klingons could be around during TOS time, so they don't have to worry about any canon violations. And there is no need to explain anything (or make any reference to the ENT Klingon episode) since that would be just needless exposition, which hopefully the writers are smart enough to avoid.
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Old January 23 2008, 09:56 AM   #11
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Anything but making the Klingons look like they did in the last two decades of Star Trek would be confusing for anyone who doesn't follow "canon". Of course the Klingons have to have their usual head ridges in this film, without needing an explanation.
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Old January 23 2008, 10:29 AM   #12
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Re: Bumpy Headed Klingons in Star Trek XI?

If you ask me (and I know nobody did), there never should have been an explanation to begin with. Devoting two hours to the issue of klingon foreheads was, in my mind, one of the low points of Star Trek history.
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Old January 23 2008, 10:32 AM   #13
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Re: Bumpy Headed Klingons in Star Trek XI?

They obviously felt they had to explain it in Ent because fans demanded it

Depends if they have Klingons in it at all, but if they are they will likely be bumpy headed as its more recognisable plus the average person doesnt care about whats 'canon'
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Old January 23 2008, 10:36 AM   #14
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Re: Bumpy Headed Klingons in Star Trek XI?

starburst said:
They obviously felt they had to explain it in Ent because fans demanded it
Which is why pandering to the fans can be a mistake. Besides, fans had been theorizing and "demanding it" ever since the first scene of TMP was viewed. The difference is that prior to that the powers that be had enough sense to leave it alone.
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Old January 23 2008, 11:07 AM   #15
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Re: Bumpy Headed Klingons in Star Trek XI?

The writers were not pandering to anyone. They did it because they came up with an explanation that they liked and it tied nicely to their augments trilogy. I was one of the people who believed they should never explain the Klingon forehead issue but I loved their explanation.

Whether it was a good idea or not is something that has been debated to death in ENT and GTD forums, so hopefully we are not going to do a rehash of it here since the movie almost certainly will not do a direct reference to it.
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