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Old February 7 2008, 04:13 PM   #541
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Re: The OFFICIAL new Enterprise - Let the critiques begin!

For a more direct comparison:



Not really scientific by any means but it might be helpful.
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Old February 7 2008, 04:28 PM   #542
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They are the same.

Look at those images.
In both you can clearly see these 'bulges' around the (nacelle's) hull.
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Old February 7 2008, 05:27 PM   #543
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I don't think they're the same. The angle for the intercooler is steeper than the angle on the other area. Plus the curve along the top of the piece in the right photo doesn't appear consistent with the straight perspective seen on the intercooler.
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Old February 7 2008, 07:30 PM   #544
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the two shots are from completely different perspectives, comparing angles is pointless. its my impression that the shot in question is intended to be of one of the nacelles, with camera aft looking forward.
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Old February 7 2008, 08:15 PM   #545
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I'll personally print out this forum page and eat it if that isn't a nacelle.
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Old February 7 2008, 08:23 PM   #546
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Arlo said:I'll personally print out this forum page and eat it if that isn't a nacelle.
That only counts if you promise to take a picture of you doing it and post it here!
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Old February 7 2008, 09:00 PM   #547
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Another possibility that hasn't gotten much discussion is that it's at the rear of the secondary hull looking forward and the big hole up front is where the neck will go...
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Old February 7 2008, 09:11 PM   #548
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I know it's silly to say this on this forum, but does anyone realize how pointless this discussion has become?
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Old February 7 2008, 09:11 PM   #549
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It actually looks like the plating wraps around the corner on the outer top side and not as it would just end there, which can be expected, if something is to be attached there.
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Old February 7 2008, 09:33 PM   #550
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Cary L. Brown said:
Arlo said:I'll personally print out this forum page and eat it if that isn't a nacelle.
That only counts if you promise to take a picture of you doing it and post it here!
Cary -

Tell ya what-- and I'm serious-- Instead of putting possibly dangerous inkjet chemicals and paper product in my mouth, I'll put money there instead:

If what is shown in the teaser trailer is *not* a nacelle, I will personally donate $75 to the charity of your choice. And yes, I will scan the check/paypal receipt/whatever and post it here as proofination.

Deal?
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Old February 7 2008, 10:01 PM   #551
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Well, Arlo, I happen to agree with you. It's a nacelle, but I think the orientation is not quite right. In my opinion "we're" looking/positioned between what would be the intercoolers facing/looking aft. There appears, at least to me, what could be a small dude with a light standing off in the distance on top of what I think is the rear end of the nycelle. I've got a 22" model on my workbench right now and I sighted it last night. The proportions work out almost perfectly.

And, yes, Forbin, this is getting to be pointless. The finial VFX are likely to change quite a bit from some teaser trailer that was made very early on in production, quite possibly when most of the VFX shots were still nothing more than story board drawings and crude animatics.

I for one, just hopes that SOME model company out there gives us a decent, accurate, model to build of what ever the damn thing ends up looking like. Oh and, yes, Forbin, we'll be expecting several kitbashes from you....

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Old February 7 2008, 10:12 PM   #552
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Arlo said:
Cary L. Brown said:
Arlo said:I'll personally print out this forum page and eat it if that isn't a nacelle.
That only counts if you promise to take a picture of you doing it and post it here!
Cary -

Tell ya what-- and I'm serious-- Instead of putting possibly dangerous inkjet chemicals and paper product in my mouth, I'll put money there instead:

If what is shown in the teaser trailer is *not* a nacelle, I will personally donate $75 to the charity of your choice. And yes, I will scan the check/paypal receipt/whatever and post it here as proofination.

Deal?
Well, if you really want to do that, I'd be fine with it, but as a rule I'm not really a betting man, and I don't particularly encourage that with others (long story involving a family member who had a gambling problem).

I was really trying to make a little joke... ya know?

Still, I think it's more debatable than some of you guys do... it really really looks like the back of the 1701(r)... in form and in size... more than it does like any nacelle detail I've ever seen (including the one seen here). But as I've said... we'll all know soon enough, won't we?
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Old February 7 2008, 10:20 PM   #553
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Cary L. Brown said:
...I think it's more debatable than some of you guys do... it really really looks like the back of the 1701(r)... in form and in size... more than it does like any nacelle detail I've ever seen (including the one seen here). But as I've said... we'll all know soon enough, won't we?
You make a good point here. Perhaps the comparison worth making is not to a photo of the aft secondary hull of a 1701 model, but rather to a photo of the aft secondary hull of a 1701 refit model.

Though I think it's a nacelle, the lack of any radiating screen on the intercoolers makes them look like... well, to quote somebody, wings.
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Old February 7 2008, 10:47 PM   #554
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It really looks nothing like a secondary hull to me. Too narrow in the front. I think that those trailer nacelles look as big around as the engine hull anyway, so I wouldn't go by size alone.
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Old February 7 2008, 11:01 PM   #555
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Cary L. Brown said:
Well, if you really want to do that, I'd be fine with it, but as a rule I'm not really a betting man, and I don't particularly encourage that with others (long story involving a family member who had a gambling problem).

I was really trying to make a little joke... ya know?

Still, I think it's more debatable than some of you guys do... it really really looks like the back of the 1701(r)... in form and in size... more than it does like any nacelle detail I've ever seen (including the one seen here). But as I've said... we'll all know soon enough, won't we?
Well if it was a real bet, you would have to pony up if I was right..but no matter, if that's against your principles, I'll let it go. Anything to get out of eating paper
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