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Old January 17 2008, 10:42 PM   #121
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The more I look at those engines the more I am convinced it is a Gabe or Gabe inspired design. There is definitely a 'hood' or bulge above the bussards.
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Old January 17 2008, 10:44 PM   #122
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I washed the pic thru a few photoshop filters to make it much easier to see the details.

look here: http://www.redspar.com/trek/new-e.jpg
Wow, thanks!

I gotta say, except for the lack of phaser turrets the saucer looks almost identical to the one on the refit. Those turbines sure do look like they mean business though.
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Old January 17 2008, 10:45 PM   #123
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Am I the only one who kinda doesn't want domes covering up the front of the nacelles?
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Old January 17 2008, 10:46 PM   #124
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On the subject of the Earth-based construction :

From The Making of Star Trek : Stephen Whitfield & Gene Roddenberry

Pg.171

The unit components were built at the San Fransisco Navy Yards and the vessel was assembled in space. The Enterprise is not designed to enter the atmosphere of a planet and never lands on a planet surface.
Of course, books are not canon. And I'm not too concerned about canon either.

But there you go
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Old January 17 2008, 10:50 PM   #125
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Again, perhaps new stonger antigrav technology or sometype of new tractor beam exists to lift the Conny to a spacedock to complete construction 80-90 years after 'Enterprise'. Or other ships just pull it up there like we have helicopters carry things today.
Hell, maybe by this time they have big industrial transporters to just beam the thing into orbit.
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Old January 17 2008, 10:54 PM   #126
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This is slighty off topic -- but I visted the 'startrek.com' message board for a moment to see what they are saying about this picture. All I can say is that after reading a few posts there, I quicky made my way back here -- to the ADULT TABLE.
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Old January 17 2008, 10:55 PM   #127
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Here is columbia under construction (from trekcore.com):

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Old January 17 2008, 10:57 PM   #128
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This is slighty off topic -- but I visted the 'startrek.com' message board for a moment to see what they are saying about this picture. All I can say is that after reading a few posts there, I quicky made my way back here -- to the ADULT TABLE.
Well that board is the wild wild west of trek forums now it's totaly unmoderated.
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Old January 17 2008, 10:58 PM   #129
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As to the comments about it looking like Gabe's model, I agree where the coloring is concerned, but that's about it. Otherwise, what I'm seeing here looks much closer to the original series model than Gabe's significant reimagined version.
And it looks just the opposite to me.

The front of the nacelles looks almost identical to Koerner's design, and the upper saucer is dramatically different from the TOS Enterprise.

I'll have to reserve judgment until I see the whole thing, but since I don't particularly like Koerner's Enterprise (other than the rotating 'collectors' on the front of the nacelles), I expect this design will have to grow on me.

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Old January 17 2008, 10:58 PM   #130
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RedSpar said:
I washed the pic thru a few photoshop filters to make it much easier to see the details.

look here: http://www.redspar.com/trek/new-e.jpg
Wow, thanks!

I gotta say, except for the lack of phaser turrets the saucer looks almost identical to the one on the refit. Those turbines sure do look like they mean business though.
There's a bit of an extra step between the superstructure and the rest of the saucer though, which IIRC is unique amongst the main interpretations of the design.
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Old January 17 2008, 10:59 PM   #131
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I hate the ST.com boards.

Anyway, in the book "A Flag Full of Stars", the Enterprise refit of the Saucer takes place on Earth and the bloody thing just takes off by itself. Pretty crazy. I remember looking at the cover like, what the hell? The pic depicts only the saucer flying through space, it threw me off.
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Old January 17 2008, 11:02 PM   #132
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So what do we think... do the nacelles get a translucent "cap" upon completion or is the familiar glow some sort of energy wash that occurs when they start spinning?

I am so happy to have some real meat to chew on! Can't wait to see the teaser!
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Old January 17 2008, 11:09 PM   #133
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Well, what are the bussard collectors? They're GAS collectors... and the gas is extremely hot (and thus radiating light) as it's compressed during collection, right?

Imagine, if you will, orange-red swirling FLAME in that cavity... not just a few whispy flames but the entire hemispherical volume just FILLED with brilliant, swirling, fire.

(what we see as "Fire," after all, is just hot gas coming off as a combustion product, remember)
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Old January 17 2008, 11:13 PM   #134
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Here is columbia under construction (from trekcore.com):


Well, this isn't as far removed as you might thing.

The entire structural framework is present, and the nacelles aren't being built in-place... they were built separately and are being ASSEMBLED to the rest of the ship in that image.

We know that external hull plating on the NX-01 can be removed for access to subsystems located underneath them (proven when they had to get rid of the Romulan mine).

I suspect that the INTENTION is what you're saying, at least in part (the nacelles were built elsewhere, I think that's obvious!) But it's by no means conclusive.

And in cases where "Enterprise" and "Star Trek" are in disagreement, I go with the original every time."
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Old January 17 2008, 11:14 PM   #135
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They get a cap. The turbines are meant to give the layman some idea of the inner workings of the engine systems. It also gives the nacelles a more "muscular" look.
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