Who no longer cares? (Raise your hand)

jayrath · January 21 2008, 01:53 AM

With all the fan frenzy, with all the slowly-released hype . . . I more and more feel that ST XI has absolutely nothing to to with my own Star Trek, and my own affection for it.

Instead it is this strange new thing, somewhat related, and I wish it well.

And I could not care less.

Wildly successful or a complete misstep, with Nimoy or even Shatner, or without . . .

I feel it is completely divorced from anything that has gone before, good or bad. I have absolutely no objection to a new approach or even a reboot, or to a slavish canon reproduction.

I just . . . do not care. It will be this other new thing.

Anyone else?

Kegek · January 21 2008, 01:59 AM

I'm apathetic, but this is nothing new.

I've always been convinced that this series marks a departure, for better or worse (hopefully better!), but I refuse to get excited lest my hopes shatter. Does that count?

Samuel T. Cogley · January 21 2008, 02:00 AM

I am fairly excited about it. It is cock full of potential, and feels like the best shot this franchise has had in years.

The only thing that makes me not care (or more appropriately, "burn out") is watching people incessantly pick every little detail to death here at the BBS. But that has next to nothing to do with the movie we will actually see in December. (Plus, it's high comedy.) :thumbsup:

SeerSGB · January 21 2008, 02:08 AM

I'm excited, but not excited...if that makes sense.

I long ago stop trying to pretend that this is going to dock in perfectly with what's come before, I've even stopped caring about the recast. All I want is a good, solid, sci-fi movie that just happens to be Star Trek. If a reboot is what it is, so be it, I frankly couldn't care anymore one way or the other.

Candlelight · January 21 2008, 02:10 AM

It may be good movie, but it's still a prequel, and Roddenberry has always said Trek was about going forward, not backwards.

Not interested at all. Been saying that since day one.

RoJoHen · January 21 2008, 02:14 AM

I'm avoiding as many spoilers as I can in attempts to remain excited. The more I know, the less I'll care.

That said, I can't wait until December.

RodneyMcKay · January 21 2008, 02:20 AM

I care. Actually,this upcoming movie has renewed and strengthened my interest in Trek. And that teaser helped a bit too.
All I care is they capture the spirit of Trek, have a good story with good performances and directing.

Things I don't care for ?
Those quick to jump to conclusions with little to no information (and there's loads of those here)
Those who nitpick to death.

I don't care they are using a new cast.I like the idea.
I don't care if they violate canon and reimagine-reboot.

Anyway,I'm pretty sure you get the idea.
Bring the new Trek on.

Samuel T. Cogley · January 21 2008, 02:20 AM

Year of Hell said:
It may be good movie, but it's still a prequel, and Roddenberry has always said Trek was about going forward, not backwards.

I'm sure he meant going forward philosophically; going forward as a race; going forward as a universe that must live and work together. Not going forward chronologically. There's nothing inherently good or right or inspirational about just going forward in time.

And if that's not what he meant, then fuck him.

K'riq Sa · January 21 2008, 02:21 AM

are we there yet?

Admiral Buzzkill · January 21 2008, 02:52 AM

I'd raise my hand, but one's busy with the computer mouse and the other's always hitting the "refresh" button on http://www.trekmovie.com or http://www.paramount.com/startrek.

Admiral Buzzkill · January 21 2008, 02:53 AM

Year of Hell said:
Roddenberry has always said Trek was about going forward, not backwards.

What's the quote? Where and when did he say it?

Samuel T. Cogley · January 21 2008, 02:55 AM

Starship Polaris said:

Year of Hell said:
Roddenberry has always said Trek was about going forward, not backwards.

What's the quote? Where and when did he say it?

"Somewhere... In the back of my mind." -Lex Luthor (Superman: The Movie)

EliyahuQeoni · January 21 2008, 03:13 AM

Samuel T. Cogley said:
I'm sure he meant going forward philosophically; going forward as a race; going forward as a universe that must live and work together. Not going forward chronologically. There's nothing inherently good or right or inspirational about just going forward in time.

Agreed. It seems to me that some take his idea "always going forward" a tad bit too literally.

And if that's not what he meant, then fuck him.

yeah, I'm still pissed at the bastard for declaring TAS non-canonical...

Samuel T. Cogley · January 21 2008, 03:14 AM

EliyahuQeoni said:
yeah, I'm still pissed at the bastard for declaring TAS non-canonical...

Then I hereby declare TAS canon!

Let's see Gene try and stop me.

middyseafort · January 21 2008, 03:19 AM

I can't wait for this movie, ever since ENT I've been waiting for a new bold interpretation of the original Trek. The paradigm that has been followed from TOS to ENT is 40 years old; it's high-time that the paradigm be shifted and the concept revitalized.

January 21 2008, 01:53 AM	#1
jayrath Fleet Captain Location: West Hollywood, Calif., USA	Who no longer cares? (Raise your hand) With all the fan frenzy, with all the slowly-released hype . . . I more and more feel that ST XI has absolutely nothing to to with my own Star Trek, and my own affection for it. Instead it is this strange new thing, somewhat related, and I wish it well. And I could not care less. Wildly successful or a complete misstep, with Nimoy or even Shatner, or without . . . I feel it is completely divorced from anything that has gone before, good or bad. I have absolutely no objection to a new approach or even a reboot, or to a slavish canon reproduction. I just . . . do not care. It will be this other new thing. Anyone else?

January 21 2008, 01:59 AM	#2
Kegek Rear Admiral Location: Somewhere You're Not	Re: Who no longer cares? (Raise your hand) I'm apathetic, but this is nothing new. I've always been convinced that this series marks a departure, for better or worse (hopefully better!), but I refuse to get excited lest my hopes shatter. Does that count? __________________ "Tell me this, do they have auditions for television?" "That's all television is, my dear - nothing but auditions." - All About Eve.

January 21 2008, 02:00 AM	#3
Samuel T. Cogley Vice Admiral Location: Hold still, Jim.	Re: Who no longer cares? (Raise your hand) I am fairly excited about it. It is cock full of potential, and feels like the best shot this franchise has had in years. The only thing that makes me not care (or more appropriately, "burn out") is watching people incessantly pick every little detail to death here at the BBS. But that has next to nothing to do with the movie we will actually see in December. (Plus, it's high comedy.) :thumbsup: __________________ "If I didn't keep getting distracted by an avatar showing a sombrero'd dog getting his engineering hull penis substitute cut off I'd probably say that the above post was a point well made." - ITL

January 21 2008, 02:08 AM	#4
SeerSGB Admiral Location: Tennessee	Re: Who no longer cares? (Raise your hand) I'm excited, but not excited...if that makes sense. I long ago stop trying to pretend that this is going to dock in perfectly with what's come before, I've even stopped caring about the recast. All I want is a good, solid, sci-fi movie that just happens to be Star Trek. If a reboot is what it is, so be it, I frankly couldn't care anymore one way or the other. __________________ - SeerSGB - Fans want to watch the movie, listen to the music, look at the pretty pictures, read the story. They are not looking to assimilate-- Colleen Doran

January 21 2008, 02:10 AM	#5
Candlelight Admiral Location: New Zealand	Re: Who no longer cares? (Raise your hand) It may be good movie, but it's still a prequel, and Roddenberry has always said Trek was about going forward, not backwards. Not interested at all. Been saying that since day one. __________________ "I'd rather be judged by twelve than carried by six."

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January 21 2008, 02:14 AM	#6
RoJoHen Awesome Location: Wherever life takes me	Re: Who no longer cares? (Raise your hand) I'm avoiding as many spoilers as I can in attempts to remain excited. The more I know, the less I'll care. That said, I can't wait until December. __________________ I am the Quintessential Admiral. Get ready to grow your EQUINOX BEARD!

January 21 2008, 02:20 AM	#7
RodneyMcKay Lieutenant Junior Grade	Re: Who no longer cares? (Raise your hand) I care. Actually,this upcoming movie has renewed and strengthened my interest in Trek. And that teaser helped a bit too. All I care is they capture the spirit of Trek, have a good story with good performances and directing. Things I don't care for ? Those quick to jump to conclusions with little to no information (and there's loads of those here) Those who nitpick to death. I don't care they are using a new cast.I like the idea. I don't care if they violate canon and reimagine-reboot. Anyway,I'm pretty sure you get the idea. Bring the new Trek on.

January 21 2008, 02:21 AM	#9
K'riq Sa Commodore Location: Hollywood,Calif.,USA	Who no longer cares? (Raise your hand) are we there yet?

January 21 2008, 02:52 AM	#10
Admiral Buzzkill The Man Location: Defying Gravity	Re: Who no longer cares? (Raise your hand) I'd raise my hand, but one's busy with the computer mouse and the other's always hitting the "refresh" button on http://www.trekmovie.com or http://www.paramount.com/startrek. __________________ "I think [J.J. Abrams has] done a great thing for Star Trek. I’m very grateful to him. We all owe him a lot. When someone comes along like he has done and picks it up and elevates it, we should be grateful." - Leonard Nimoy

January 21 2008, 03:19 AM	#15
middyseafort Rear Admiral Location: The Bay Area	Re: Who no longer cares? (Raise your hand) I can't wait for this movie, ever since ENT I've been waiting for a new bold interpretation of the original Trek. The paradigm that has been followed from TOS to ENT is 40 years old; it's high-time that the paradigm be shifted and the concept revitalized. __________________ A mild-mannered reporter Literary Masturbation