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Old January 14 2008, 03:45 AM   #46
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Re: No reason the current cast couldn't do a TV series.

Paramount is not taking ST back to the small screen, at least nothing from the TOS era, which is what this is.

As I commented on the Other Forum, Paramount can make scads of money from hitting two demographics: baby boomers who grew up with TOS Trek and new fans who are somewhat aware of the franchise having been beaten into the ground by B&B. In addition, there is a whole universe of new young fans who have never heard of ST's early years and who are dimly aware of Trek.

An exciting film with good pacing and a good story can capture any fan. Basic moviemaking.
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Old January 14 2008, 03:49 AM   #47
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Re: No reason the current cast couldn't do a TV series.

No new Trek series unless William Shatner is the "Special Guest Star" every week as Kirk - a la Jonathan Harris on "Lost In Space."
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Old January 14 2008, 04:00 AM   #48
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Re: No reason the current cast couldn't do a TV series.

Sorry to have overlooked this.

I haven't seen a minute of Sopranos but it is possible that copping out on the ending undercuts the whole series. Not saying it did, now, but it might have. Since Lost is so much about the mystery of the island, if they don't have a coherent explanation, well yeah, the series as a whole is a bust.

When they do the movie of my life, there will be no good reason to cast young versions of my coworkers today.

Spock is not someone to become anyone's friend. There is a tale to be told. Slash was a popular explanation, but it's not mine. Nor I imagine is it the movie's. However, the story of how Kirk and Spock became friends is the only interesting backstory to be told about any of the characters. Every single one of the other characters is superfluous and any brief appearances are just fanwank.

Of course it's perfectly possible for two men to be close friends without sexual motives. You're so freaked you forgot that Spock is supposed to be an alien. But even if Spock were just another forty year old virgin, being bosom buddies with a stud muffin like Kirk is still a little unusual.

(By the way, you could use some real science and have Spock be a product of highly complex genetic engineering instead of unprotected sex. The story of why they'd do that might be interesting. But science is a dirty word with the supposedly good writers. )
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Old January 14 2008, 04:06 AM   #49
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Re: No reason the current cast couldn't do a TV series.


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However, the story of how Kirk and Spock became friends is the only interesting backstory to be told about any of the characters. Every single one of the other characters is superfluous and any brief appearances are just fanwank.

To be fair, I think McCoy is also an important character, both as part of the troika dynamic, and how he relates to Spock. The other characters are pretty superfluous, I'll agree, and it remains to be seen how the film will handle them.

As far as Spock's birth is concerned... who knows? I don't think it was ever stated that he was a wholly natural birth. It's an interesting avenue to explore in theory, but I don't really see how it could relate to the plot of the film at all. Care to elaborate?
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Old January 14 2008, 04:16 AM   #50
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This is the TV revival fans are waiting for:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MabtkVg_Gs
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Old January 14 2008, 04:22 AM   #51
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Re: No reason the current cast couldn't do a TV series.

I'm still waiting for the Dr. Shrinker revival. It's been far too long.
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Old January 14 2008, 04:38 AM   #52
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Re: No reason the current cast couldn't do a TV series.

Starship Polaris said:
This is the TV revival fans are waiting for:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MabtkVg_Gs
As comical as this is, I still feel sorry for Dr. Smith and the kid since they are lost in space "millions of light years from our galaxy".
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Old January 14 2008, 05:52 AM   #53
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Re: No reason the current cast couldn't do a TV series.

A practical approach would be: No set cast. Let's explore this new universe Abrams helped to re-energize. Each episode could have a different setting. One could be all Klingon, one all Romulan, or even all Tholian. Or you could even set it in Starfleet Academy, or Starfleet Command. Command is monitoring the situation of a starship, and we get to see what space combat is like on the other side of those communcations to Starfleet. Kind of like 24 meets Star Trek. Each story, however, affects the universe. A Ship explodes, and three stories in, the characters could be discussing that situation. We could even go back to the new movie cast once in a while, and see whats been happening with the characters. The finale of the show could have the Enterprise going in for re-fit prior to TMP.
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Old January 14 2008, 07:06 AM   #54
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Re: No reason the current cast couldn't do a TV series.

Plum said:
actors in Europe have no problem doing a TV series.
But signing up for a five-year minimum contract, and spending almost six months per year cloistered away in claustrophic soundstages, perhaps wearing heavy SPFX makeup, and knowing that for the rest of your life there is an expectation to do ST conventions... Many actors with glorious ambitions would have second thoughts about that.
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Old January 14 2008, 07:18 AM   #55
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Re: No reason the current cast couldn't do a TV series.

Kegek said:
I don't think it was ever stated that he was a wholly natural birth. It's an interesting avenue to explore in theory
In fact, the circumstances of Spock's "test tube" baby conception and maturation procedure is discussed by Gene Roddenberry and Sarek of Vulcan (played by the voice of Mark Lenard) on the old LP, "Inside Star Trek". It's also on the bonus CD on the 20th anniversary re-release of the ST:TMP soundtrack.
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Old January 14 2008, 09:00 AM   #56
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i can think of million$ of reason$ why they will not do a TV series.
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Old January 14 2008, 11:48 PM   #57
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"It is too soon to regard Lost as an artistic success (you have to see the end of a serial to tell that,)"

Nope. Do not pass go.

"how Kirk and Spock got to be such friends. That's the only interesting character backstory. The whole thing sounds like an abortion."

Geez, you never read 'Enterprise the First Adventure' did you?

Oh wait...sorry...

Babylon 5 SUCKS!!!!

Firefly SUCKS!!!!
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Old January 15 2008, 01:59 AM   #58
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Re: No reason the current cast couldn't do a TV series.

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Plum said:
actors in Europe have no problem doing a TV series.
But signing up for a five-year minimum contract, and spending almost six months per year cloistered away in claustrophic soundstages, perhaps wearing heavy SPFX makeup, and knowing that for the rest of your life there is an expectation to do ST conventions... Many actors with glorious ambitions would have second thoughts about that.
I think that's a good point.

Some bullshit US Network contract isn't gonna cut it.

The old 7 season Trek series is gone, thank the gods. Let's imagine a reasonable, say, 3 season production. A real vision, something classy. Perhaps bringing in top writers from todays younger stable. Hey, still think Orci would be an ideal show runner.

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i can think of million$ of reason$ why they will not do a TV series.
Residuals my friend. It's a frellin' pension for actors in Star Trek.
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Old January 15 2008, 07:45 AM   #59
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The actors are more than likely on a 3 film deal or something similar, getting them to switch to a TV series would be prohibitively expensive.
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Old January 15 2008, 08:30 AM   #60
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Re: No reason the current cast couldn't do a TV series.

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Let's imagine a reasonable, say, 3 season production. A real vision, something classy.
Unlikely. The standard Hollywood contract is a five-year minimum, studio's option to renew. If they signed actors to less than that, like UK did with the recent incarnation of "Doctor Who", they'd have their lead actors dropping out mid-stream. And when/if the show is popular enough to renew, the actors' agents put their prices way up.

Also, the expensive standing sets for Star Trek TV series are budgeted across the assumption of a five-year run. TNG didn't really start making Paramount money until Season Six.
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