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Old January 11 2008, 12:51 AM   #31
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Re: What Enterprise is the better design part 2 ?

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Not at the same scale, but . . .


I think I get your point; they BOTH have lousy silhouettes.
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Old January 11 2008, 01:13 AM   #32
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Re: What Enterprise is the better design part 2 ?

I tied the vote, Galaxy all the way... the Sovereign just looks too... mean, like a warship, not noble like the Galaxy.
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Old January 11 2008, 05:11 AM   #33
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I voted for the Galaxy Class. A pristine, bejeweled city in space, leaping to the unknown on the gossamer hope of knowledge triumphant and the burning desire to see the unknown.


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Old January 11 2008, 09:13 AM   #34
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Re: What Enterprise is the better design part 2 ?

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Not at the same scale, but . . .


I think I get your point; they BOTH have lousy silhouettes.
Okay, well, what about the 1701-C, then?

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Old January 11 2008, 01:38 PM   #35
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Re: What Enterprise is the better design part 2 ?

Tough choice... because I hate both designs so much. As others have mentioned the 1701-D over-sized, oval saucer unbalances the whole design. The lines of the ship are too soft and look like someone melted a Constitution-Class saucer section. It only looks good from a couple angles and even then it doesn't look *that* good. The 1701-E on the other hand... is just ugly.
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Old January 11 2008, 02:50 PM   #36
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Re: What Enterprise is the better design part 2 ?

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Not at the same scale, but . . .


I think I get your point; they BOTH have lousy silhouettes.
Okay, well, what about the 1701-C, then?


Nacelles are a little higher, almost there ... guess you gotta go back to Kirk's ship for the best silhouette (though according to Nilo Rodis, if you shot the refit in profile it didn't look right.)
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Old January 11 2008, 03:44 PM   #37
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I have cutaways like these of the Ent-B and NX-01, but I can't say they cut handsome profiles, either. Maybe the Akira class beats all of these when viewed from the side, but we haven't had a real Akira-class Enterprise.
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Old January 11 2008, 04:59 PM   #38
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Re: What Enterprise is the better design part 2 ?

The Galaxy-Class as Andrew Probert originally intended it to be, not the additions made be others after he left the production team.

Some of those intentions can be viewed in the Ed Whitfield blueprints and not the Sternbach-Okuda blueprints.
Ed Whitfield's Galaxy-Class Blueprints

One of the things that I liked the most about Probert's original intentions was that the edge of the saucer was tapered with windows lining the upper part and lower part of the deck for viewing, where there was no room for a Ten-Forward.
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Old January 11 2008, 08:46 PM   #39
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Re: What Enterprise is the better design part 2 ?

The Galaxy seems to be winning, despite the loudness of the opposition.

Anyway, neither design is terrible, but I find the E-E too squatty, neckless, and oddly shaped. It tries to be an ENT-B too much, with a giant leap backwards in deflector design and huge, illogical impulse vents. Not to mention all the crap stuck on the bottom of the saucer. It looked Ok in FC but went down hill with the redesign.
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Old January 11 2008, 09:00 PM   #40
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Have to go with the Galaxy. Like I've said before, the Enterprise-E looks terrible. It's a TNG type-2 phaser with nacelles on it. The Enterprise-D was meant for long term exploration and to have families aboard because of it. Hence, the large primary hull. There was no need to make the secondary hull too big because the only people there would be engineers. Although neither design holds a candle to the original Enterprise refit.
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Old January 11 2008, 09:48 PM   #41
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Well - they're by a nose so far. Sovvy rates for me.
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Old January 13 2008, 02:34 AM   #42
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The Galaxy gives the impression of "techonology unchained" as Roddenberry wanted it. The engines are small because, well, since TOS the technology got better and we don't need honking huge nacelles any more. The Sovereign looks like a car that's been fitted with spinners, too much chrome, oversized tailpiles and a spoiler just to look badass...but underneath, it's still a Nissan...
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Old January 13 2008, 02:43 AM   #43
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Re: What Enterprise is the better design part 2 ?

People,

Looks like the Sovereign and Galaxy are almost neck-and-neck in the poll!

I picked the Sovereign, even though I don't like the class name. Wish they had named it Enterprise class; then we would have had a canon reference to such a class. As I understand it, the NCC-1701-A has been dubbed "Enterprise-class" by fans, even though I believe there's no spoken dialogue indicating this.

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Old January 13 2008, 04:02 AM   #44
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Re: What Enterprise is the better design part 2 ?

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People,

Looks like the Sovereign and Galaxy are almost neck-and-neck in the poll!

I picked the Sovereign, even though I don't like the class name. Wish they had named it Enterprise class; then we would have had a canon reference to such a class. As I understand it, the NCC-1701-A has been dubbed "Enterprise-class" by fans, even though I believe there's no spoken dialogue indicating this.

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See Enterprise-Class sign for the specific trainer used by trainees preparing to serve on a refit in TWOK. Or see other 'what enterprise' thread.
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Old January 13 2008, 04:11 AM   #45
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Re: What Enterprise is the better design part 2 ?

I picked the Galaxy Class because it is new concept. Firstly, they shouldn't have destroyed her in GEN. Secondly, I think because they were trying to just evoke the lines of the TOS-refit Enterprise that I don't like the E-E.
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