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Old December 31 2007, 08:02 PM   #46
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Re: What would have improved Voyager?

Who is more caustic and depressing, Voyager's Doctor or Gregory House? Who was instantly redeemed and mellowed out becoming beloved by all those around him after a 1/4 season, and who is a bigger jerk after 4 years?

It's morally bankrupt to instantly redeem characters for no reason practically between scenes and between episodes.

Voyager would have been better if the Doctor had gotten worse after parallax instead of sublimenting itself into a non event.
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Old January 3 2008, 08:05 PM   #47
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Re: What would have improved Voyager?

What would have improved VOYAGER?

You might as well ask the same question about all of the TREK shows. And if this question is being asked ONLY in regard to VOYAGER, then this thread is irrevelant.
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Old January 4 2008, 01:39 AM   #48
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Re: What would have improved Voyager?

Oh for God's sake Kenobi those suggestions were completely ridiculous...mmmph...argh...NO!...must not suggest...Seven...rubbing decon gel...on Janeway's butt...after spanking!
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Old January 4 2008, 04:04 AM   #49
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Re: What would have improved Voyager?

Wil has a posse said:
voss749 said:
5) No holodecks

This should be bolded and underlined.


I'll give it a try:

NO HOLODECKS.

There, that felt better.

I would like to have seen Janeway have to explain some of the major events of the journey to a board of review at Starfleet. In the military, whenever something out of the ordinary takes place, there's a board of review.

I'd periodically like to see a Starfleet vs. Maquis soccer game with the two coaches - Chakotay and Janeway cheating to secure a win.

I would like to have seen Janeway denied service in the Captain's lounge because of a tab that went unpaid for seven years.

I would also liked to have seen her have to use a good chunk of her back pay to bail the crew out of jail after they hit San Francisco for the first time in seven years. Kind of like "Night Court" only everything's a bit cleaner.
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Old January 4 2008, 05:59 AM   #50
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Re: What would have improved Voyager?

Humans don't have money. They have a philosophy.
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Old January 4 2008, 10:26 PM   #51
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I like some of the holodeck episodes, particularly Worst Case Scenario and Fair Haven (I know I'm in the minority on the latter.) These two were good because we actually got to see a more 'human' side of the crew, particularly with Janeway dealing with her reprogrammable boyfriend.

'Bride of Chaotica' is also fun.

Anyway, the problem with the holodeck is how the writers write about it, not the holodeck itself.
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Old January 5 2008, 01:46 AM   #52
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Re: What would have improved Voyager?

I agree on that.

I mean, nuBSG does "Holodeck" stuff all the time, but it's acceptable there because they make it interesting.

All those "head flashes" and "illusions"? BSG's holodecks.
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Old January 5 2008, 01:51 AM   #53
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Re: What would have improved Voyager?

Some one going insane, OR being comptrolled by a malevolent enemy is hardly the same as recreational device that tries to kill you every other week.

Seriously, how many near death experience can these people have in there before they just board up the holodeck and pretend it's a beet cellar?

The closest approximation to the holodeck on NuBSG is alcohol.
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Old January 5 2008, 02:30 AM   #54
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Re: What would have improved Voyager?

More CATFIGHTS ... I am not joking
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Old January 5 2008, 02:35 AM   #55
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Re: What would have improved Voyager?

If they could have kept the reset button to maybe once a season it would have done amazing stuff
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Old January 5 2008, 03:00 AM   #56
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Re: What would have improved Voyager?

Guy Gardener said:
Some one going insane, OR being comptrolled by a malevolent enemy is hardly the same as recreational device that tries to kill you every other week.

Seriously, how many near death experience can these people have in there before they just board up the holodeck and pretend it's a beet cellar?

The closest approximation to the holodeck on NuBSG is alcohol.
Something that causes the participant to be in some false reality or imagined vision = Holodeck pretty much.

Thos bits of Adama having visions of his wife are basically no-tech holodeck stuff, and since we're still not sure what Head Six are, she's pretty much Baltar's private holodeck thing too.
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Old January 5 2008, 03:05 AM   #57
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misskim86 said:
If they could have kept the reset button to maybe once a season it would have done amazing stuff
You really think they used the reset button that much
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Old January 5 2008, 03:08 AM   #58
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yes
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Old January 5 2008, 03:11 AM   #59
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Re: What would have improved Voyager?

Understood it was used to replace Kes with Seven.

It was used in Year in Hell

It was used in very minor episodes but would say all the time naaaaaaaaa
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Old January 5 2008, 03:16 AM   #60
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No it wasn't all the time but very often and I'm just in season 4 so far.

One recurring thing is that the ship gets beaten up a lot then in the next episode it's all shiny again.
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