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Old July 14 2008, 11:15 PM   #121
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I'm dying to see more of Lavena and I think we're going to to get a shot at that soon.
Have you seen the cover? We see all of Lavena.

I pray Bralik gets some more face time. And, of course, I hope Modan gets to stick around.
Yes and yes.
AWESOME!
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Old July 14 2008, 11:41 PM   #122
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Just in case you haven't seen the cover yet Redjack, here it is:
http://startrek.wikia.com/wiki/Over_a_Torrent_Sea
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Old July 17 2008, 10:56 AM   #123
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I just read this book for the first time, and I'm really impressed. It's not perfect, many others have noted the confusing nature of the setup, and I personally was somewhat annoyed at the tendency for a character to suddenly realize how something worked or get a brilliant plan, only to have them run off without telling us what it was, or have them get knocked out, or have a chapter break right there, etc. Seemed like the characters knew a lot more than I, the reader, did, until the very end when it was finally explained. That kind of narrative device really bothers me, though I realize that many authors utilize it as a perfectly legitimate source of tension and drive. Mostly just a pet peeve of mine.

But aside from wanting to have some of those revelations explained a little sooner, I managed to figure out everything, and I thought it was quite a clever new take on time travel, paradoxes, etc, and kept up very well the sense of scientific wonder that Orion's Hounds started. Seems like Titan is shaping up to be the most rigorous sci-fi of the spinoff novels, and I couldn't be happier.

I also thought the darker, more conflict-heavy takes on the characters were fantastic, especially Ra-Havreii who started really annoying, only to have the reveal of the song make him more interesting. Can't wait to see where Mack takes him, Lavena, Dakal, and the rest.

I actually really hope Thorne gets to write one of the DS9-relaunch novels; I think his darker / mystical kind of tone would work brilliantly in that series. Or another Titan novel, I'd be cool with that too... Really, it's not often that I read a new Trek author and immediately start to hope they get another crack at it, the last time that happened was when I read Ex Machina, but this and Fearful Symmetry have both made me really want the next book by each author. It's cool that Woods is coming back next year, so now I'm just hoping for Thorne...

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Old July 17 2008, 02:18 PM   #124
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^^Err, Leanna Morrow isn't coming back next year. Olivia Woods, who took over from Leanna Morrow as the author of Fearful Symmetry, is coming back next year.
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Old July 17 2008, 06:51 PM   #125
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^^Err, Leanna Morrow isn't coming back next year. Olivia Woods, who took over from Leanna Morrow as the author of Fearful Symmetry, is coming back next year.
Er, why yes, you're correct. What a bizarre mistake for me to make. It's edited; thanks.
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Old July 17 2008, 07:39 PM   #126
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I just read this book for the first time, and I'm really impressed. It's not perfect, many others have noted the confusing nature of the setup, and I personally was somewhat annoyed at the tendency for a character to suddenly realize how something worked or get a brilliant plan, only to have them run off without telling us what it was, or have them get knocked out, or have a chapter break right there, etc. Seemed like the characters knew a lot more than I, the reader, did, until the very end when it was finally explained. That kind of narrative device really bothers me, though I realize that many authors utilize it as a perfectly legitimate source of tension and drive. Mostly just a pet peeve of mine.

But aside from wanting to have some of those revelations explained a little sooner, I managed to figure out everything, and I thought it was quite a clever new take on time travel, paradoxes, etc, and kept up very well the sense of scientific wonder that Orion's Hounds started. Seems like Titan is shaping up to be the most rigorous sci-fi of the spinoff novels, and I couldn't be happier.

I also thought the darker, more conflict-heavy takes on the characters were fantastic, especially Ra-Havreii who started really annoying, only to have the reveal of the song make him more interesting. Can't wait to see where Mack takes him, Lavena, Dakal, and the rest.

I actually really hope Thorne gets to write one of the DS9-relaunch novels; I think his darker / mystical kind of tone would work brilliantly in that series. Or another Titan novel, I'd be cool with that too... Really, it's not often that I read a new Trek author and immediately start to hope they get another crack at it, the last time that happened was when I read Ex Machina, but this and Fearful Symmetry have both made me really want the next book by each author. It's cool that Woods is coming back next year, so now I'm just hoping for Thorne...
WOW.

Wow.

WOW.

Thanks for that.

Honestly, I'd be intimidated to try anything in the DS9-r series because it's so freaking stellar and I'd be even more terrified I'd screw something up than I was to follow M&M and CB with TITAN. Maybe something set on Bajor before the Cardassians showed up. That could be cool. I dunno. I never even considered it before this moment. DS9 is the most intricately plotted of the Trek series and the "relaunch" is even moreso. Niners are to normal Trekkers what Sehlats are to Tribbles so I'd be pretty nervous about pissing them off too.

I would LOVE another crack that the TITAN crew if for no other reason than I want to write them in a more linear story. I love those guys. I'm praying most of them survive DESTINY.

I'm hoping to get a crack at the MACOs at some point in some venue.
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Old July 17 2008, 07:45 PM   #127
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WOW.

Wow.

WOW.

Thanks for that.

Honestly, I'd be intimidated to try anything in the DS9-r series because it's so freaking stellar and I'd be even more terrified I'd screw something up than I was to follow M&M and CB with TITAN. Maybe something set on Bajor before the Cardassians showed up. That could be cool. I dunno. I never even considered it before this moment. DS9 is the most intricately plotted of the Trek series and the "relaunch" is even moreso. Niners are to normal Trekkers what Sehlats are to Tribbles so I'd be pretty nervous about pissing them off too.

I would LOVE another crack that the TITAN crew if for no other reason than I want to write them in a more linear story. I love those guys. I'm praying most of them survive DESTINY.

I'm hoping to get a crack at the MACOs at some point in some venue.
You're welcome

I'm praying most of them survive Destiny, too. After this book especially; you set up so many ongoing conflicts and dynamics that it's killing me I don't have the next book yet. If nothing else, SoD made the crew a much more complicated, layered bunch.
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Old July 18 2008, 01:54 AM   #128
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Isn't Starfleet down two, technically, considering the destruction of the U.S.S Luna, as constantly referenced by Ra-Havreii?
As I recall, the Luna wasn't destroyed, only damaged. It suffered an accident that killed a number of engineers, but the ship survived and is now in service.


Yeah and Dr Tourangeau is in a chair ala Pike, Thanks.
Atleast that is what the author emailed me.
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Old July 18 2008, 02:03 AM   #129
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^ It's one way of making sure your top starship designer doesn't escape.

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Old July 18 2008, 02:12 AM   #130
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Isn't Starfleet down two, technically, considering the destruction of the U.S.S Luna, as constantly referenced by Ra-Havreii?
As I recall, the Luna wasn't destroyed, only damaged. It suffered an accident that killed a number of engineers, but the ship survived and is now in service.


Yeah and Dr Tourangeau is in a chair ala Pike, Thanks.
Atleast that is what the author emailed me.
Well. yes. he's physically incapacitated but...

well that would be telling.
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Old July 18 2008, 02:41 AM   #131
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Yeah and Dr Tourangeau is in a chair ala Pike, Thanks.
Atleast that is what the author emailed me.
That strikes me as unlikely. I'm sure that by 2380, Federation medical technology has advanced to the point where that would no longer be necessary. (Heck, in real life that will be the case by 2080, if not decades sooner.)
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Old July 18 2008, 03:11 AM   #132
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That was just the running joke between me and redjack. I'm sure Dr.T is a little more mobile than Pike.
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Old July 18 2008, 06:33 AM   #133
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All this talk of TITAN inspired me to update the annotation page.

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Old July 18 2008, 06:35 AM   #134
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That was just the running joke between me and redjack. I'm sure Dr.T is a little more mobile than Pike.
Honestly? I wanted Sean in there. He did an awesome job and I wanted his contribution to be a REAL part of the story. Now he's a peer of Ra-Havreii's, part of his guilty past and still alive somewhere doing.....?

I have my own ideas and, if the other guys don't pick up on that character, there's no reason he couldn't pop up later in some fashion.
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Old February 13 2013, 06:55 PM   #135
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Sorry for necro-posting this topic, but I just finished Sword of Damocles and I wanted to say a few words about it.

I had trouble to enter in the story. The epilogue at the beginning was not clear for me. The beginning of the book is quite slow. Ok, we follow the different species of the Titan and we learn more about the different characters but I wasn't hooked.
But only until the shuttle was sent away. Then everything changed and I was really captivated. The characters are in danger, there is suspens, the tension grows progressively, there are twist and the author succeeded to surprise me, particularly when appears the notion of time. Each chapter finishes with a cliffhanger or a revelation and I couldn't stop to read it.

I like stories about time travels when I have to scratch my head and it was the case for this book. Sometimes it was a little confused for me, maybe because of my English level, but with the author annotations and the topics on this board, it was clearer. And it has not diminished my reading pleasure.

The final chapter with the anonymous characters was not clear for me, but again with the topics on this board I finally understood who was who. I'm a big fan of Riker, so I regret seeing him so little in this novel but I might be more lucky in the next books.

In conclusion I really appreciate reading this fourth book of the Titan series.
I hope I made myself clear as English is not my native language it's not easy for me to write a review.
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