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Old December 23 2007, 03:21 PM   #31
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Re: Sword of Damocles -- comments & opinions ****SPOILERS***

Just finished the book. When I got it, I thought I won't have time to finish it until after christmas, but once I started reading I couldn't put it away... Great book. Well done RedJack.
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Old December 24 2007, 12:30 AM   #32
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Yay. Thanks. Happy Christmahannukwanza!
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Old December 24 2007, 12:54 AM   #33
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I finished it. It just did not rate that highly for me.
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Old December 24 2007, 01:29 AM   #34
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Care to say why not? I'm a big boy. I can take it.

I've noticed, for instance, that some people are peeved that I didn't focus on the Trois more. Since I didn't set out to write IMZADI III, that's a criticism that I just don't get.

But if there was some problem with the prose or the characterizations or anything that didn't float your boat, I'd like to see some detail on that. It's helpful.
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Old December 24 2007, 07:04 AM   #35
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Re: Sword of Damocles -- comments & opinions ****SPOILERS***

I'm on page 153 (up from page 35 yesterday) and so far it's been...interesting.

One thing I will say is that it is significantly...darker than the previous Titan installments. It's like a particularly intense Battlestar Galactica episode with heavy shading from a Dominion War-era Deep Space Nine episode (or vice-a versa). I'm not sure how it will be born out, but I shall continue to read. The current unfolding of events is...intriguing.
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Old December 24 2007, 09:49 AM   #36
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I'm about 200 pages into the book. This afternoon, I kept reading for quite awhile, not so much because I'm loving it, but I suddenly found I wanted to finish it because it really just isn't doing anything for me.

Maybe the remaining portion will pick up. Here's hoping.
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Old December 24 2007, 10:51 AM   #37
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Well, there's a lot more violence if that's what you mean.
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Old December 24 2007, 12:38 PM   #38
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Well, I've finished it. I'm still digesting everything, but I can say it was a good read.

But I can see how you could be turned off by it. The technobabble was at times a bit much. Vale made a comment about how helpless she felt with all the techno talk, and I have to agree.

The Riker/Troi thing. I'm not sure about Imzadi III, but there were times, with Riker and Troi, that there could have been a bit more focus on them. The whole "dancing around their problem" worked for a while, but then fell flat. Especially when the problem was finally revealed. All that trauma...over her workload being made lighter? Yes, it's a valid reason and it wasn't one of the first times he'd been overprotective, but having it get as bad as it got is a bit too much. If the question was having the baby in the first place, and Riker didn't want to for constant fear for its and her safety (something that was expressed in Sword of Damocles anyway) then I could see all this grief. But work schedules?

Ra-Havreii being an ass for most of the story, even when he was helping, almost turned me off. And his "Luna Guilt" is starting to become an annoying trait, and utilized a lot more than necessary.

Despite all that (I wasn't turned off from it) it was still a good read. My pacing and reading were thrown off by all the technobabble and scientific concepts, but with the explanations there, I managed to slog through it. Having Jaza gone/not gone is going to kill me, and I'm pissed off beyond all belief at having to wait until October of 2-freaking-008 to get more Titan.

Sword of Damocles was a good read, overall, and has rounded out my Trek Lit experience for this month. Kudos, Geoff.
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Old December 24 2007, 02:07 PM   #39
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It was a variety of things. The focus on Vale,Keru,Jaza, made for interesting social dynamics, but they are not interesting enough to me. The technical details took two reading to become clear enough to understand. The technique of not telling a story as time progresses has been overused.
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Old December 24 2007, 03:32 PM   #40
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Vixen said:
...there were times, with Riker and Troi, that there could have been a bit more focus on them. The whole "dancing around their problem" worked for a while, but then fell flat. Especially when the problem was finally revealed. All that trauma...over her workload being made lighter? Yes, it's a valid reason and it wasn't one of the first times he'd been overprotective, but having it get as bad as it got is a bit too much.
I thought the real underlying source of tension between them was their difficulty conceiving, and that their frustration at that worsened their disagreement over his protectiveness etc. At least that was my impression.

I'm pissed off beyond all belief at having to wait until October of 2-freaking-008 to get more Titan.
Why? December '07 to October '08 is only 10 months. The interval between Orion's Hounds and SoD was 23 months, January '06 to Dec. '07.
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Old December 24 2007, 03:36 PM   #41
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Christopher said:
I thought the real underlying source of tension between them was their difficulty conceiving, and that their frustration at that worsened their disagreement over his protectiveness etc. At least that was my impression.
I could have gotten the wrong impression, I suppose. I had figured that since Deanna was seeing Ree about the fertility treatments, they had gotten that part solved. *shrug*


Why? December '07 to October '08 is only 10 months. The interval between Orion's Hounds and SoD was 23 months, January '06 to Dec. '07.
I didn't realize it had been that long.
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Old December 24 2007, 05:02 PM   #42
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I'm on chapter 7 about now, and I keep finding myself thinking of Lost now. I think this is mostly because of the focus on great characters, the jungle setting, and now the flashbacks. Lost is one of my all time favorite shows, so for me this is a good thing.

As for the reasons for the Trois problems, I'm thinking that instead of just being one of problems that it might actually be all of them adding up to make a bigger problem.

Overall I'm really liking the book so far, and I'm very curious to see what it is that happens to Jaza that has everyone talking.
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Old December 24 2007, 07:54 PM   #43
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Mr. Bennett is right.



To me, even as a reader, TITAN is not the further adventures Riker and Troi. They are just two characters out of a sea of equally interesting ones. I understand the frustration that some may have with not seeing the focus on the two (or five if you include Tuvok, Pazlar and Ogawa) characters that have appeared on screen but that was never my intent.

The three previous authors did such awesome work in several areas- making the ship unique, jacking up the adult and scifi elements- trying like all the others in the literary stable to make these books competitive with "real" scifi books, I tried to do this also. I tried to write a book that I would buy.

I'm liking the comparisons to LOST. It's not intentional on my part but it was my favorite show. I'm sorry the tech stuff was a lot for some people. I'll work on that in the future. For Trekkers, time travel stories need more of a spin to be viable and I wanted something that hadn't been seen before.

I knew when I turned it in this book wasn't going to be for everybody but I'm glad even those of you who don't LOOOOOOVE it still find things to like.

And for those who do love it, your checks are in the mail.
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Old December 24 2007, 08:03 PM   #44
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Re: Sword of Damocles -- comments & opinions ****SPOILERS***

Now that my misconception of the Troi/Riker friction has been cleared up, I find Sword of Damocles to have been much better than originally thought.
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LOL. Okay. you get a check too.
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