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Old November 4 2007, 11:24 PM   #1
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As hated as "Let He Who is Without Sin" is...

I like the insight into Worf's reserved nature.

It makes sense of the character.

His story about growing up as a Klingon child amongst humans is perhaps the best part of the ep.

Well, that and the scantily clad females...
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Old November 4 2007, 11:26 PM   #2
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Re: As hated as "Let He Who is Without Sin" is...

Well, I like the fact Worf is a stuck-up prude. But it's the idea, not the execution, I'm afraid.
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Old November 4 2007, 11:29 PM   #3
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Re: As hated as "Let He Who is Without Sin" is...

There's not much to redeem this one I'm afraid. For every scantily-clad Leeta, there's Bashir camping it up!
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Old November 5 2007, 01:48 AM   #4
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Re: As hated as "Let He Who is Without Sin" is...

Yeah, Worf's recollection of the boy he killed on Gault was a good part of an otherwise poor episode. There's also a cool life of Kahless quote in there.
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Old November 5 2007, 01:57 AM   #5
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Re: As hated as "Let He Who is Without Sin" is...

Why do people hate this ep so much?
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Old November 5 2007, 03:02 AM   #6
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Re: As hated as "Let He Who is Without Sin" is...

Preachy, moralistic and fairly strained way to contrast premarital tensions between the looseygoosey Jadzia, and starchy Worf. And this episode wasted our beautiful, bathing suit clad beauties. A trip to Risa is supposed to be fun, relaxing!
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Old November 5 2007, 03:34 AM   #7
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Re: As hated as "Let He Who is Without Sin" is...

I suppose you're right. I loved the Quark scenes, though. complaining about the rain, and
*hands Horgahn to Bashir* "Here, you'll need this more than I do"
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Old November 5 2007, 04:35 AM   #8
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Re: As hated as "Let He Who is Without Sin" is...

Never hated it. Certainly not a favorite, but there are far worse.

Vanessa Williams's character is too, well, recognizable as...Vanessa Williams to be interesting.

Some people hate it for the essentialists. But why wouldn't there be people like the Essentialists? It's like people are arguing in favor of Roddenberry's flawless humanity of the future, which saps a lot of drama potential.
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Old November 5 2007, 08:32 AM   #9
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Re: As hated as "Let He Who is Without Sin" is...

How come s Worf wasn't court martialed and expelled from Starfleet for sabotaging the weather control of an entire freaking planet for no good reason whatsoever?
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Old November 5 2007, 08:39 AM   #10
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Re: As hated as "Let He Who is Without Sin" is...

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I actually like that they introduced the Essentialists. I also think it's safe to assume there'd be people like this even in Trek's enlightened future.
HOWEVER, they're sadly wasted in what I personally consider one of DS9's worst offerings. Bad writing, bad dialog, bad acting, bad characterization etc. Just a total waste. It's amazing how this came along in such a strong season but then DS9 unfortunately managed this in almost every season for some reason. How these stinkers ever made it to the screen I will never know...
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Old November 5 2007, 06:57 PM   #11
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Re: As hated as "Let He Who is Without Sin" is...

Jack Bauer said:
How come s Worf wasn't court martialed and expelled from Starfleet for sabotaging the weather control of an entire freaking planet for no good reason whatsoever?
My thoughts exactly.

Worf was definitely having some sort of male PMS in this episode. Good grief - go take a happy pill, 'fer cryin' out loud!
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Old November 5 2007, 08:58 PM   #12
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Soccer makes people crazy.
At least he wasn't turning a bunch of innocent kids into a fascist mob this time.
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Old November 6 2007, 02:05 PM   #13
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Jack Bauer said:
How come s Worf wasn't court martialed and expelled from Starfleet for sabotaging the weather control of an entire freaking planet for no good reason whatsoever?
Risans (Risians?) are forgiving in nature? Who else is gonna sell out Worf? Dax? Bashir?

Using the "should've been court martialed" stance, then you'd have most of the leads of every series booted out of Starfleet. O'Brien freed Tossk and sabotaged the station (to save Keiko, but). Riker's a murderer (and arguably so is Janeway). Picard violated the prime directive a few times. Data's put the ship and crew in danger a few times. Tuvok engaged in a conspiracy to illegally acquire alien technology. Bashir lied on his entry to Starfleet, not mentioning being genetically enhanced.
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