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Old July 7 2009, 03:49 AM   #316
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But I'd love to find a home for my "Last Talbot" poem; everybody seems to love that one. You've read that, right?
No, I don't think so.

I've already ordered Monstrous; it jumped right to the top of my Shopping Cart list.
I thought you might like that one. I haven't cracked it open yet, so I hope it's good. It has pretty good reviews, at least.

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the book i may read for halloween..
robert mccammon's The Queen of Bedlam .
Did you read the first one, Speaks the Nightbird? What'd you think?

I have it, but I'm holding onto it for when I feel like something historical. Same with Dan Simmons's The Terror.

no drat ....
i am really backed up on the reading after the eye issues..
so add it in to the other book.

right now i am reading emma bull and frost's shadowbridge plus a short
story collection.

oh liked the terror though not as much as summer of night and winter of haunting. though my favorite simmons is the first hypericon.
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Old July 7 2009, 09:57 AM   #317
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I saw Night Of The Demon a while back on TMC; I'm pretty sure it was the British version. Good movie.

I've been reading Monstrous. It's been amusing, but I'm dismayed by the low editorial standards. A couple of the stories are rather amateurishly written. There are tons of Internet-level errors, such as leaving the -ed off the end of words ("renown" instead of "renowned," for example) and "loose" instead of "lose." In one story, there was a major continuity error: Two kids go off into the woods because their dog has run away and suddenly the dog is just with them as if they had been together all the time; I know it's not fashionable to care about continuity these days, but I find that sort of thing jarring. It's unfortunate, because overall the book is a good idea and pretty entertaining; but laziness and low standards are, sadly, becoming more and more common.
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Old July 7 2009, 10:43 AM   #318
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Just quickly checking some of my manuscripts shows that a single-spaced 8.5x11 page with one-inch margins in WordPerfect holds an average of about five hundred words. So 80,000 words would be about 160 pages. Which agrees with Spiff's findings because they're probably using double-spacing.
That's not a huge amount then, I do remember knocking out 20,000 words over night once when I was undert some desperate pressure.

However, now it has taken me almost a month just to come up with an idea that doesn't make me want to cut my own hands off to prevent me from writing anything

Anyway, just thought i'd recommend a 50 movie pack I picked up last time I was in the states to those who like old low budgeters. There's actually a surprising number of classics in there, although none of them are great transfer quality, hell, they probably DLed some of them off archive.org.

Some of the best and worst in the collection:

The Corpse Vanishes starring Bela Lugosi
Night of the Living Dead starring Judith O'Dea
The Phantom of the Opera starring Lon Chaney, Sr.
The Indestructible Man starring Lon Chaney, Jr.
The Hunchback of Notre Dame Lon Chaney, Sr.
Nosferatu starring Max Schreck
The Little Shop of Horrors starring Jack Nicholson
Tormented starring Richard Carlson
A Shriek in the Night starring Ginger Rogers
Bloodlust starring Robert Reed
The Bat starring Vincent Price
The House on Haunted Hill starring Vincent Price
The Last Man on Earth starring Vincent Price
Dementia 13 starring William Campbell
Carnival of Souls starring Candace Hilligoss
Invisible Ghost starring Bela Lugosi
One Body Too Many starring Bela Lugosi
White Zombie starring Bela Lugosi
The Terror starring Boris Karloff
The Fatal Hour starring Boris Karloff
Metropolis starring Gustav Frolich

And assorted other movies with such interesting names as Atom Age Vampire, some unwatchable crap, some B-movie heaven.

You can get it from Amazon for just $12.99.

http://www.amazon.com/Horror-Classic.../dp/B0001HAGTM
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Old July 7 2009, 10:48 AM   #319
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Not surprisingly, quite a few of those are in the public domain. I recognize the public domain titles.

I had a friend who had a collection of the 50 worst horror movies ever made. I'm still trying to scrub Eegah! out of my brain. It wasn't the horrible caveman that was frightening, but the lousy attempt at rock'n'roll singing by someone who can't sing or act around a poolside.

Kind of reminds me of the "Johnny" A-story parts of Alan Freed's Go, Johnny, Go! It's a "classic" only if you skip everything in between the classic oldies performance segments. The rest was cringe-inducing. It was clearly an attempt by Alan Freed to create a new teen idol out of a talentless individual by having famous legends talk about how great he is. Suffice to say, the kid didn't get anywhere.

And I'm saying this as someone who actually enjoys Elvis movies. These movies make his look fantastic (and I'm well aware of their faults). For rocksploitation flicks, those are among the best. You don't even want to see Beach Blanket Bingo or Go, Johnny, Go!

Also, Ed Wood has got nothing on Eegah! Ed Wood films are charming next to some of the things I've seen.

Haven't checked out Manos: Hands of Fate or Santa Claus Conquers the Martians, but I've heard they're supposed to be epically terrible.

Seen Turkish Star Wars before? That's easily the worst thing I've ever seen. It makes the Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers look high quality. You'll never look at trampolines and strapping rocks to your legs the same way again. Not to mention the stolen Star Wars space footage and the Raider's March as the theme. Oh, and while you're at it, check out Turkish E.T. and the Turkish Wizard of Oz. The Bollywood musical version of Superman, complete with Spidergirl, is also spectacularly bad.

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Old July 7 2009, 12:06 PM   #320
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I just watched a terrific old B & W horror film, Night of the Demon (1957), directed by Jacques Tourneur.

This film was intriguing in all sorts of ways. For starters, the DVD includes two versions: the original British film, and a shortened American version, Curse of the Demon. It was interesting to see what changes the distributor thought was necessary for an American audience.

Once you see it, too, you can see its influence in all sorts of unexpected places. It was obviously an important inspiration for Sam Raimi's recent Drag Me to Hell, but its central concept was also strongly reminiscent of the cursed videotape in Ringu. One of its optical effects was even copied in an episode of DS9, "The Storyteller."

Highly recommended for fans of classic horror films.
Night of the Demon is one of my all time favourite horror films, part of the reason I loved Drag me to Hell was because Raimi was obviously riffing on this (even down to the railway track ending!). Just try to ignore the demon (which Tourneur was forced to put in) and enoy the wonderful atmosphere of dread that permeates the entire film.
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Old July 8 2009, 03:08 AM   #321
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Haven't checked out Manos: Hands of Fate or Santa Claus Conquers the Martians, but I've heard they're supposed to be epically terrible..

seriously if you can find it get the mystery science theatre version of manos.
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Old July 8 2009, 03:40 AM   #322
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Old July 16 2009, 11:42 PM   #323
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I just got Matango: Attack of the Mushroom People.

Can you say "Caption This?"
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Old July 17 2009, 05:02 AM   #324
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You'll find several like-minded fans in here, NileQT87. Welcome!

Speaking of the Universal Legacy series, I'm sure you guys have seen the newer ones for Dracula, Frankenstein and The Mummy. I just found out they'll be releasing one for The Wolf Man around the time of the remake's release.

Most of them probably aren't worth the double (or actually triple) dip, but it's worth it to have at least one, because they all have a decent Universal horror documentary narrated by Kenneth Branaugh. Depending on the film, some of them have a few more features, too. Some of the Amazon reviews specify which features aren't on previous editions.

Speaking of The Wolf Man (2009), I recently caught this reveal of an action figure design. I have to say, if that's how he looks in the movie, Rick Baker did a phenomenal design. Even if everything else about the remake ends up sucking, it'll be a pleasure to see that make-up onscreen.
I bought the original Legacy box-set, which included the Dracula, Frankenstein, and Wolf Man DVD sets, and mini-busts of each of the 3 monsters. One of my best purchases ever.
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Old July 17 2009, 06:53 AM   #325
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That was a great set. I already have the editions without the busts, but I've seen them pop onto eBay now and then, and I've been tempted.

These newer Legacy sets are nice-looking, but compared to the older ones in the green boxes, there's no contest. The only drawback to the green ones is the double-sided discs, which can have problems. It's wise to make back-ups, just in case.
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Old July 17 2009, 09:54 AM   #326
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I got the bustless versions, too. Maybe someday when I have room....

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Heh. I remember that from Creature Double Feature. I'll add it to my Shopping Cart.

Right now, I'm reading Consider Phlebas, which is the first of Iain Banks' Culture novels. It's Hard SF, but it definitely has some Horror elements; for example, the main character just made a rather painful escape from an island of cannibals.
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Old July 17 2009, 12:19 PM   #327
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I try to read Brian Lumleys Necroscope series every year. Horror and sci-fi. Vampires from another world. Some truely grisly images in this series and some great depictions of evil.
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Old July 18 2009, 07:43 AM   #328
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Heh. I remember that from Creature Double Feature. I'll add it to my Shopping Cart.
I wound up throwing Matango into the DVD player last night, and it wasn't at all what I expected. I expected a good helping of fun schlock with a side of cheese, but it was a surprisingly effective little movie. Sure, the mushroom suits are kind of wacky at the end, but it's got a steady, believable build, and most of the acting is pretty good.

Nice transfer, too. I recommend it, just not for the reasons I'd expected to recommend it.
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Old July 18 2009, 09:47 AM   #329
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As a little kid, I remember thinking of it as a 'grown up' movie because of its tone.
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Old July 18 2009, 10:23 AM   #330
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Yeah, it's really quite serious, especially for having such a silly name. Though I understand it went through a few throughout the years.

I was all geared up for something silly, though. Maybe I'll have to bust out the Sam Katzman collection.

I love how they play kind of loose with the word "classics" on the cover.
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