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Old January 22 2009, 11:07 AM   #1
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Enterprises Final Episode

For some reason I'd been holding off on watching the last 3 episodes of season 4. Idk why, maybe because I knew once I watched them, that was it, no more "new" episodes for me.

Well tonight I watched the very last episode, and man, I really wasn't expecting that. Riker? Troi? Tripp go Ker-Blooey?

I just didn't see any of that coming.

It felt rather unresolved though. We didn't get to see Riker address his problem, though I guess in a way it makes sense, this is Ent and not TNG. But we also didn't get to hear Archers speech, which I was looking forward to hearing, then they turned off the holodeck.

Probably wouldn't top his speech in the previous episode before the counsel I guess.

All in all though, it felt like an "ending" to the series, but at the same time it also felt a little hollow. Almost like a filler/gimmick episode.

Anyone else's thoughts on it?
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Old January 22 2009, 11:33 AM   #2
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For some reason I'd been holding off on watching the last 3 episodes of season 4. Idk why, maybe because I knew once I watched them, that was it, no more "new" episodes for me.

Well tonight I watched the very last episode, and man, I really wasn't expecting that. Riker? Troi? Tripp go Ker-Blooey?

I just didn't see any of that coming.

It felt rather unresolved though. We didn't get to see Riker address his problem, though I guess in a way it makes sense, this is Ent and not TNG. But we also didn't get to hear Archers speech, which I was looking forward to hearing, then they turned off the holodeck.

Probably wouldn't top his speech in the previous episode before the counsel I guess.

All in all though, it felt like an "ending" to the series, but at the same time it also felt a little hollow. Almost like a filler/gimmick episode.

Anyone else's thoughts on it?
But we do know what riker did. Watch the TNG episode with the ship thats stuck half way in an asteroid. Thats the issue he was dealing with. The USS Pegasus, which we served as an ensign, was tinkering with an illegal cloak. There was an accident, all but I think 9 people died, and he was sworn to secracy. He was torn between that, and his loyalty to picard and the feeling that he needed to tell the captain. In the end, he told picard, although Picard was a little dissapointed that it took him that long.

Yeah, I would of liked to hear that speech too, I mean it's the birth of the federation for pete's sake, that would have been monumental to see.
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Old January 22 2009, 02:40 PM   #3
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Yeah, I would of liked to hear that speech too, I mean it's the birth of the federation for pete's sake, that would have been monumental to see.
And we'll get lampooned by another gazeeeelle speech.

But yeah, I was looking forward to his speech and ended up rather annoyed.
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Old January 22 2009, 02:43 PM   #4
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My one lingering memory from that finale...

The way T'pol looked and stood in those final moments, as if she could barely keep from passing out from an over-dose of cocaine. Those were my first thoughts of the final scenes, and my most lingering.
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Old January 22 2009, 02:55 PM   #5
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But we do know what riker did. Watch the TNG episode with the ship thats stuck half way in an asteroid. Thats the issue he was dealing with. The USS Pegasus, which we served as an ensign, was tinkering with an illegal cloak. There was an accident, all but I think 9 people died, and he was sworn to secracy. He was torn between that, and his loyalty to picard and the feeling that he needed to tell the captain. In the end, he told picard, although Picard was a little dissapointed that it took him that long.
TNG Season 7: The Pegasus.

Which is all the more reason that These Ain't The Voyages was a total waste of an episode, nevermind a finale of a season, a series or a franchise. We know what Riker is going to do and we know when he makes that decision and we know why he makes that decision. And goofing off on the holodeck had nothing to do with it.
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Old January 22 2009, 04:13 PM   #6
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It wouldn't have been a waste if it was truly an ENT ep, and not a meaningless tie-in.

There were great story points, but so much was too rushed.

Shran turned out to be a wonderful supporting character.

B&B blew it the first season by turning it into ST:90210
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Old January 22 2009, 04:21 PM   #7
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The way T'pol looked and stood in those final moments, as if she could barely keep from passing out from an over-dose of cocaine.
I wont' speculate on the reason, but Blalock really was off in that ep, and especially in that scene. Then again, so was Bakula, but in a different "let's-wrap-this-thing-and-go-home" kind of way.

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We know what Riker is going to do and we know when he makes that decision and we know why he makes that decision. And goofing off on the holodeck had nothing to do with it.
Exactly. TATV was, among many other things, completely uninspired.

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How, by regressing from a certified badass to a complete sissy?

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B&B blew it the first season by turning it into ST:90210
Nonsense.
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Old January 22 2009, 07:32 PM   #8
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Another TATV SUXXXX thread?? Must be Thursday.
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Old January 22 2009, 08:04 PM   #9
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I wasn't to thrilled with the holodeck aspect of it, but that aside I thought it was good. Actually, and I know I'll probably get banned for this, I liked Enterprise.


Thats right! I said it! I LIKE THE UPSIDE DOWN AKIRAPRISE!
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Old January 22 2009, 08:15 PM   #10
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I enjoyed ENT quite a bit. I don't think TATV sucked. I didn't think it was a great way to end the series. I personally think of Terra Prime as the end of the series. TATV is more of a coda, putting ENT into historical perspective with the rest of the Trek series.
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Old January 22 2009, 09:55 PM   #11
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I think they did not show the speech because they could not come up with a good speech. At least that is how it felt to me. Better to cut it than to show something that was a letdown. Boy, did that backfire.
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Old January 22 2009, 10:09 PM   #12
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I think they did not show the speech because they could not come up with a good speech. At least that is how it felt to me. Better to cut it than to show something that was a letdown. Boy, did that backfire.
It would have been great suspense if there was more show. Maybe have a mid-summer special doing flashback scene's while archer is giving his speech about friendship and whatnot... Ok, that might actually be boring when I put it that way, but you get the idea.
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Old January 23 2009, 08:20 AM   #13
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The way T'pol looked and stood in those final moments, as if she could barely keep from passing out from an over-dose of cocaine.
I wont' speculate on the reason, but Blalock really was off in that ep, and especially in that scene. Then again, so was Bakula, but in a different "let's-wrap-this-thing-and-go-home" kind of way.
Blalock hated that episode and made it clear even during production. The other speculation is just meanness.
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Old January 23 2009, 02:32 PM   #14
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The way T'pol looked and stood in those final moments, as if she could barely keep from passing out from an over-dose of cocaine.
I wont' speculate on the reason, but Blalock really was off in that ep, and especially in that scene. Then again, so was Bakula, but in a different "let's-wrap-this-thing-and-go-home" kind of way.
Blalock hated that episode and made it clear even during production. The other speculation is just meanness.
It was evident to me that Jolene wanted to covey to the audience and everyone else, that he hated doing that episode. The only scene that she put any effort into was the scene in Trip's quarters.
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Old January 23 2009, 03:48 PM   #15
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The only scene that she put any effort into was the scene in Trip's quarters.
Just barely. Bakula sucked so bad in that scene that I barely noticed Jolene was there. I can't claim that I know what was on his mind then, but the expression on his face suggested pure disbelief, like he was thinking: "Jesus, I can't believe I'm actually saying this sh#t!"
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