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Old April 6 2012, 05:38 PM   #1276
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If you're referring to the scene between Kosh and Sinclair in "The Gathering", (Kosh's greeting) that wasn't in the original airing. It was inserted by JMS after the series ended. And I myself think Season 1 was the best of all. It set the stage of everything that came later.

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Old April 6 2012, 06:00 PM   #1277
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If you're referring to the scene between Kosh and Sinclair in "The Gathering", (Kosh's greeting) that wasn't in the original airing. It was inserted by JMS after the series ended. And I myself think Season 1 was the best of all. It set the stage of everything that came later.

Outstanding series.
And, it's not so easy to understand exactly what Kosh says to Sinclair, nor, is it really something you're going to remember 3 1/2 years later when you find out what it means, so, yea, not really a big spoiler for the average first time viewer, IMHO, just foreshadowing to show events were always meant to happen a certain way, and didn't just get pulled out of the air randomly, and a nice little Easter Egg for folks to find on a rewatch, "OMG, he said xxxxx, right in the Pilot"
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If you're referring to the scene between Kosh and Sinclair in "The Gathering", (Kosh's greeting) that wasn't in the original airing. It was inserted by JMS after the series ended. And I myself think Season 1 was the best of all. It set the stage of everything that came later.

Outstanding series.
I don't think it should have been inserted. One of the things I like about Season 1 (And don't get me wrong, I do enjoy the season but it's not as good as Seasons 2-4) is the mystery surrounding Sinclair and why the Minbari surrendered. To insert that line takes a little bit away from that mystery in episodes like And the Sky Full of Stars, doesn't it. Of course having known the series already, it's not much of a spoiler, but I'm just not sure it was wise to reveal everything right up front like that.
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Old April 6 2012, 06:54 PM   #1279
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If you're referring to the scene between Kosh and Sinclair in "The Gathering", (Kosh's greeting) that wasn't in the original airing. It was inserted by JMS after the series ended. And I myself think Season 1 was the best of all. It set the stage of everything that came later.

Outstanding series.
I don't think it should have been inserted. One of the things I like about Season 1 (And don't get me wrong, I do enjoy the season but it's not as good as Seasons 2-4) is the mystery surrounding Sinclair and why the Minbari surrendered. To insert that line takes a little bit away from that mystery in episodes like And the Sky Full of Stars, doesn't it. Of course having known the series already, it's not much of a spoiler, but I'm just not sure it was wise to reveal everything right up front like that.
How can anyone who hasn't seen the Series yet, possibly remember those couple "made up" words spoken early in the Pilot, with no clue what the words mean, spoil something 3 1/2 years down the line in episodes? Nah, those words mean nothing, until you see it all played out 3 seasons later.
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If you're referring to the scene between Kosh and Sinclair in "The Gathering", (Kosh's greeting) that wasn't in the original airing. It was inserted by JMS after the series ended. And I myself think Season 1 was the best of all. It set the stage of everything that came later.

Outstanding series.
I don't think it should have been inserted. One of the things I like about Season 1 (And don't get me wrong, I do enjoy the season but it's not as good as Seasons 2-4) is the mystery surrounding Sinclair and why the Minbari surrendered. To insert that line takes a little bit away from that mystery in episodes like And the Sky Full of Stars, doesn't it. Of course having known the series already, it's not much of a spoiler, but I'm just not sure it was wise to reveal everything right up front like that.
How can anyone who hasn't seen the Series yet, possibly remember those couple "made up" words spoken early in the Pilot, with no clue what the words mean, spoil something 3 1/2 years down the line in episodes? Nah, those words mean nothing, until you see it all played out 3 seasons later.
That's true. Maybe it's just my reaction that after watching the whole series and finally watching The Gathering again, the answers were right there from the start. Very sneaky of JMS to do that, even though I wonder how my reaction will be watching an episode like And the Sky full of Stars, which is an episode I remember really liking
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Old April 7 2012, 07:42 PM   #1281
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I don't think it should have been inserted. One of the things I like about Season 1 (And don't get me wrong, I do enjoy the season but it's not as good as Seasons 2-4) is the mystery surrounding Sinclair and why the Minbari surrendered. To insert that line takes a little bit away from that mystery in episodes like And the Sky Full of Stars, doesn't it. Of course having known the series already, it's not much of a spoiler, but I'm just not sure it was wise to reveal everything right up front like that.
How can anyone who hasn't seen the Series yet, possibly remember those couple "made up" words spoken early in the Pilot, with no clue what the words mean, spoil something 3 1/2 years down the line in episodes? Nah, those words mean nothing, until you see it all played out 3 seasons later.
That's true. Maybe it's just my reaction that after watching the whole series and finally watching The Gathering again, the answers were right there from the start. Very sneaky of JMS to do that, even though I wonder how my reaction will be watching an episode like And the Sky full of Stars, which is an episode I remember really liking
And the Sky Full of Stars was the first episode I realized there was way more to the Series then meets the eye. I don't remember anything in it, that relates to that line though. I think it's not until War Without End you find out what those words mean. If it was in English, yea, it would be easy enough to remember, but, since it's in Minbari, not so much a problem, methinks
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Old April 9 2012, 06:57 PM   #1282
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... but I actually didn't remember a lot of it on the rewatch. For one, I was surprised that they gave us a huge spoiler right at the beginning which makes me wonder if it was an appropriate start to the series.
If it's the spoiler I'm thinking of, one reason why you might not remember from seeing the original is because that one word *wasn't* in the original cut - it was added during the re-edit done when the show moved to TNT. But reall, if you were watching it for the first time, it really wouldn't have been a spoiler.

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Old July 8 2012, 08:43 PM   #1284
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Hey guys ... I was just thinking ... if you could have a B5 character meet a DS9 character ... well what characters would you have meet up to compare notes?
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Hey guys ... I was just thinking ... if you could have a B5 character meet a DS9 character ... well what characters would you have meet up to compare notes?
Morden and Weyoun could be really fun
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Old July 10 2012, 03:02 AM   #1286
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Yeah, I think we went over that in TheGodBen's review thread, it would go something like this:

"What do you want?"

"To serve the Founders...in all things".

Then they stare at each other for five minutes with smarmy, slightly creepy smiles on their faces.

Then they part on "friendly" terms, each knowing the other has decided that they and everything they stand for must be destroyed.
Heh.

I'd like Londo and Dukat to meet. They seemed to be on opposite trajectories. Dukat starts out pretty "evil" but kind of has a redemption arc, only to take a downward spiral to eventually become almost Satanic. Londo starts out friendly and boisterious, more of a comic relief character, gets much darker, and eventually becomes an almost tragic ... when, maybe not hero, but certainly not a bad guy.

I dunno, I suppose in a way though Dukat could be more like Cartagia ...
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Yeah, I think we went over that in TheGodBen's review thread, it would go something like this:

"What do you want?"

"To serve the Founders...in all things".

Then they stare at each other for five minutes with smarmy, slightly creepy smiles on their faces.

Then they part on "friendly" terms, each knowing the other has decided that they and everything they stand for must be destroyed.
Heh.

I'd like Londo and Dukat to meet. They seemed to be on opposite trajectories. Dukat starts out pretty "evil" but kind of has a redemption arc, only to take a downward spiral to eventually become almost Satanic. Londo starts out friendly and boisterious, more of a comic relief character, gets much darker, and eventually becomes an almost tragic ... when, maybe not hero, but certainly not a bad guy.

I dunno, I suppose in a way though Dukat could be more like Cartagia ...
Oooh, yea, Dukhat and Cartagia could be a blast. Imagine Dukhat's approving look while watching Cartagia rinsing the blood off his hands

Vir and Damar coming from Opposite ends of the spectrum, but, ending up in the same place.

Oh, and imagine the verbal smackdown Delenn could give Kai Winn
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I always thought Vir and Rom were very similar. They both started out as buffoonish characters who seemed atypical of their species and they both wound up the leaders of their respective people. Vir had to go through a lot darker stuff, though.

Now, who would Kosh meet?

Oh, and imagine the verbal smackdown Delenn could give Kai Winn
All it would take is a look....
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Marcus and Bashir have some similarities, I bet they would become instant rivals.
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Marcus and Bashir have some similarities, I bet they would become instant rivals.
Hmm ... somehow I'd rather see Bashir and Franklin comparing notes ... I know, I know, just because they're both doctors, doesn't mean they're similar ... but I just have this image in my head of Franklin explaining Centauri anatomy to Bashir:

Bashir: They have six?!

And for some reason I would really love Kosh to just stroll up and something really cryptic to Sisko ... or anyone really.
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