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Old August 30 2007, 03:04 AM   #91
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Re: Niners Unite...around Babylon 5! - The Lost Threads

Alright, I have another random comment!

I do not like the recastin' of Na'Toth from the first season to the second. The two actresses may look like the same character, thanks to heavy make-up & costumin', but they don't sound alike at all.

I preferred the actress they had for the first season, and it seems like they aren't usin' Mary Kay Adams nearly as much in the second.
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Old August 30 2007, 03:10 AM   #92
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After two or three episodes, they don't use Mary Kay Adams at all. Na'Toth just fades out of the picture.

Some resolution will be brought for the character WAY down the road, but I'll say no more.
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Old August 30 2007, 03:10 AM   #93
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Therein lies a tale that Jan is probably better qualified to tell. Suffice it to say that everyone prefers Julie Caitlin Brown's version of Na'toth. When Mary Kay didn't see fit to portray the character the way jms wanted it done .....

That's not to say Mary Kay isn't a good actress in her own right. And she's a blast to hang with.
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Old August 30 2007, 03:10 AM   #94
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The two actresses may look like the same character, thanks to heavy make-up & costumin', but they don't sound alike at all.


it seems like they aren't usin' Mary Kay Adams nearly as much in the second.
Causal relationship.
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Old August 30 2007, 03:13 AM   #95
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Well, I'm watchin' 'The Coming of Shadows', and G'Kar mentionin' Na'Toth in his "farewell" message reminded me that I didn't like her anymore.
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Old August 30 2007, 03:14 AM   #96
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Just wipe the version with Mary Kay from your mind and only recall the JCB version. You are now watching the first of the Hugo-winning episodes... and it damned well deserved it.
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Old August 30 2007, 03:34 AM   #97
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Yeah, that was a pretty good episode, though I gotta say, Sinclair looked older than he should, only bein' gone for a year & all.

I liked the age make-up done for Mollari & G'Kar, too.
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Old August 30 2007, 03:38 AM   #98
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Let's just say that he's been through quite a lot, that the age lines are well-earned.
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Old August 30 2007, 03:52 AM   #99
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Yes, read To Dream in the City of Sorrows if you want to know what Sinclair's been through (but only after seeing Grey 17 is Missing).
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Old August 30 2007, 05:59 AM   #100
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Nah, I don't want too many spoilers, so I'm just goin' episode at a time. I know some stuff, and don't really want to go lookin' at websites that might tell me too much.
Trust the Lindley, for he speaketh the truth. :thumbsup:

What he says about Lurker's is one of its best points. You can work your way through the episodes you've seen without risking finding out something you have yet to see.
I hate to disagree, but I must. I wouldn't bother even visiting The Lurker's Guide at all - at least your first run through (I visit the site on average several times a week, so its not that I don't love the site).

It's just that your first run through you should enjoy the show for what it is, and it is amazing. Then as you watch it a second, third, or eleventy-seventh time through, Lurker's really adds something special.

Remember, it's the journey...
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Old August 30 2007, 11:39 AM   #101
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But Lurker's provides a nice tour guide for that journey regardless of how many times you've take it. It helps to clarify the road signs, explain the sights, caution you about detours, elaborate the inhabitants, etc.
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Old August 30 2007, 03:33 PM   #102
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Therein lies a tale that Jan is probably better qualified to tell. Suffice it to say that everyone prefers Julie Caitlin Brown's version of Na'toth. When Mary Kay didn't see fit to portray the character the way jms wanted it done .....
The role of G'Kar's aide was a difficult one from the get-go. Mary Woronoth who played Ko D'Ath in 'Born to the Purple' had issues with the prosthetics and refused to wear the contact lenses and so met an unfortunate airlock accident.

There being a sudden hole in the casting, somebody on the crew (I don't remember who) contacted Julie Caitlyn Brown to fill in on an emergency basis-literally overnight, iirc. In fact, her first episode was done in the other actresses mask. Because of this, JCB wasn't bound by the same 5-year contract the rest of the actors were.

After a point, JCB became concerned about the effects of the prosthetics and chemicals on her face as well as being concerned about possibly losing opportunities for lead roles that would actually show her face so she asked to be released.

But there were still episodes coming up where JMS needed an aide for G'Kar, though, so they auditioned and hired Mary Kay Adams. Word is that she nailed Na'Toth's character in the auditions but made different choices when actually playing the part, softening her. Efforts were made to nudge her back to the way the character was originally played but then she was just written out.

As stated, you will see JCB again. Not just once, either.

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Old August 30 2007, 03:45 PM   #103
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The strange thing about Julie Brown problems with her make up was that she went straight to TNG to play another alien in Gambit along with Pat Tallmen.
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Old August 30 2007, 04:38 PM   #104
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^ You know, you really should change your username to DWSG1B5F.
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Old August 30 2007, 04:43 PM   #105
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I think that Gambit was filmed in 1993, wasn't it? JCB was in the credits for B5 through 1994. I think it was a matter of being exposed to the chemicals and having glue applied to her skin regularly, though.

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