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Old September 13 2007, 04:43 AM   #316
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Re: Niners Unite...around Babylon 5! - The Lost Threads

Well, I've watched Babylon 5: In the Beginning...and to me, it suffers from the same thing most prequels suffer from, and that's makin' the universe so small.

G'Kar, Franklin & Sheridan knew each other before all three wound up on B5.

Delenn saw Sheridan before he was ever on B5, even though Sinclair thought he was the first human the Minbari ever met.

If the Minbari wanted to know more about humanity, why weren't Sheridan & Franklin kept as prisoners?

Mollari is the reason why G'Kar, Sheridan & Franklin wound up gettin' caught by the Minbari in the first place, what the hell?

Guess its a good thing they didn't hold the triluminary up against Franklin or Sheridan, if they couldn't make it glow, Sinclair would have been screwed later.

And, if that weren't enough, Mollari tells the story of all this the day he dies. So, where was G'Kar while Mollari told his story? Its already shown he was there, in the throne room an hour later.

I've got Babylon 5: Thirdspace playin' now, and since it doesn't have G'Kar or Garibaldi, I don't have too much interest. Ivanova is there, but her hair is all funked up.

- edit, to add -

Alright, I've watched both In the Beginning & Thirdspace -

http://od0-ital.livejournal.com/234160.html

- so, tomorrow, the fifth season!
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Old September 13 2007, 06:32 AM   #317
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Re: Niners Unite...around Babylon 5! - The Lost Threads

^ just curious, how exactly do you manage to pack so much B5 into so little time?
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Old September 13 2007, 06:36 AM   #318
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Re: Niners Unite...around Babylon 5! - The Lost Threads

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Red alert! Spoilers for War Without End follow!!
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Original post:
I wonder if the triluminary would have registered against Franklin or Sheridan, or if it only registered on Sinclair because (Spoiler tag inserted by [b]PKTrekGirl)
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Old September 13 2007, 06:44 AM   #319
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Re: Niners Unite...around Babylon 5! - The Lost Threads

Mal said:
just curious, how exactly do you manage to pack so much B5 into so little time?
I don't have much else goin' on lately.
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Old September 13 2007, 06:44 AM   #320
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Re: Niners Unite...around Babylon 5! - The Lost Threads

^ Unicron - I love ya to bits...but watch the spoilers - especially ones about super-cool plot points like that. I know we have at least one current poster in this thread who isn't there yet.

Sorry...but I edited your post.
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Old September 13 2007, 06:45 AM   #321
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^

Ya know, even I have seen 'War Without End, Parts One & Two'.

What's your excuse?

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Old September 13 2007, 06:51 AM   #322
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Re: Niners Unite...around Babylon 5! - The Lost Threads

^ Perhaps you might recall that you aren't the only B5 newbie currently posting in this thread.

And it's just beyond my capabilities to allow a newbie to be spoiled on THAT particular plot point in MY forum.

Ya got a problem with that?
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Old September 13 2007, 07:03 AM   #323
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Oh, right...that other n00b. Almost forgot.

Good thinkin'.

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Old September 13 2007, 01:34 PM   #324
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od0_ital said:
Well, I've watched Babylon 5: In the Beginning...and to me, it suffers from the same thing most prequels suffer from, and that's makin' the universe so small.

G'Kar, Franklin & Sheridan knew each other before all three wound up on B5.

Delenn saw Sheridan before he was ever on B5, even though Sinclair thought he was the first human the Minbari ever met.

If the Minbari wanted to know more about humanity, why weren't Sheridan & Franklin kept as prisoners?

Mollari is the reason why G'Kar, Sheridan & Franklin wound up gettin' caught by the Minbari in the first place, what the hell?

Guess its a good thing they didn't hold the triluminary up against Franklin or Sheridan, if they couldn't make it glow, Sinclair would have been screwed later.

And, if that weren't enough, Mollari tells the story of all this the day he dies. So, where was G'Kar while Mollari told his story? Its already shown he was there, in the throne room an hour later.

I agree completely. While ItB is generally pretty good, it's all very contrived and strained how so many of our principles are involved in it and intersect. Feels very artificial and "it's a Babylon 5 movie so we need our Babylon 5 cast in it". The only way to really reconcile it is to say Londo was tellin' some tall tales, mixing in facts he knew about the war with his friends from B5.
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Old September 13 2007, 02:29 PM   #325
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od0_ital said:
Well, I've watched Babylon 5: In the Beginning...and to me, it suffers from the same thing most prequels suffer from, and that's makin' the universe so small.
Understandable. For my part, some of these things seemed a mite too coincidental. but then they don't contradict anything afterwards, so it's all good to me.

Delenn saw Sheridan before he was ever on B5, even though Sinclair thought he was the first human the Minbari ever met.
Remember that the Minbari never tell anyone the whole truth.

If the Minbari wanted to know more about humanity, why weren't Sheridan & Franklin kept as prisoners?
That was part of the cessation for the war, I suppose.

Mollari is the reason why G'Kar, Sheridan & Franklin wound up gettin' caught by the Minbari in the first place, what the hell?

Guess its a good thing they didn't hold the triluminary up against Franklin or Sheridan, if they couldn't make it glow, Sinclair would have been screwed later.

And, if that weren't enough, Mollari tells the story of all this the day he dies. So, where was G'Kar while Mollari told his story? Its already shown he was there, in the throne room an hour later.
Don't forget that essentially this is all told from Mollari's perspective, even in "The Gathering". You know... "I was there at the dawn of the Third Age of Mankind"....
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Old September 13 2007, 08:56 PM   #326
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^ Unicron - I love ya to bits...but watch the spoilers - especially ones about super-cool plot points like that. I know we have at least one current poster in this thread who isn't there yet.

Sorry...but I edited your post.
No worries. My brain was tired when I wrote my post, after a long day of work.
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Old September 13 2007, 09:45 PM   #327
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Re: Niners Unite...around Babylon 5! - The Lost Threads

Normally, they aren't real spoilers since the shows have long been out on DVD. However, it's the uniqueness of threads like this which make us careful about those kinds of plot points.
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Old September 13 2007, 11:49 PM   #328
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Re: Niners Unite...around Babylon 5! - The Lost Threads

^ Yes. It's sort of an unwritten rule in this forum that when you are posting in threads aimed at newbies, to stay aware of where the newbie posters are in the show (and this goes for this thread as well as DS9-related newbie threads) so as to not spoil them.

Shows like DS9 and B5, because they are arc-driven and not just a bunch of stand-alones, are really sensitive to spoilers. So Niners are kinda used to 'the drill' on that point.

No harm done - and we are all buds in here, so no one gets bent if I edit their posts for this sort of thing. We tend to operate under the premise that we are all on the same team 'round here. Shoot...they've even caught me slipping up once or twice, and told me to edit my own post! And they were right!
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Old September 14 2007, 04:21 AM   #329
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Wait, I just read Doctor Franklin is dead in real life.

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Old September 14 2007, 04:36 AM   #330
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Yes, as of a few years ago. G'Kar and Zathras, too.

They left one heck of an impact, though.
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