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Old August 22 2007, 11:35 PM   #1
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Was that one black chick a better helmsman than Wes?

I ranted in another thread a while back how making the Helmsman a central character is almost useless because it is hard to show how good they are at their job.

So in ther 4 seasons or so we had of Wesley helming the Enterprise I can't think of any incident that made him stand out as a good helmsman. He was mostly "Set course, Mr. Crusher, Warp 8."

And that's it.

Then comes "Relics" at one point in that episode the Enterprise is attempting to leave the Sphere, the doors are closing and are to narrow to fit the hulk of the ship. So that one black lady helmsman (not sure if she ever got a name) types on her panel (wihtout being directed to) and we see the ship roll 90* and make it out the doors!

That right there makes her look like a great pilot! So I think she's better than Wesley as pilot.
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Old August 22 2007, 11:46 PM   #2
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Re: Was that one black chick a better helmsman than Wes?

Having literally just watched the episode 30 minutes ago, I have to comment!

I'm not really sure if that makes her a great pilot - I mean, who *wouldn't* have done that if they had been in her situation? Wasn't she just doing her job?
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Old August 23 2007, 12:12 AM   #3
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Re: Was that one black chick a better helmsman than Wes?

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Having literally just watched the episode 30 minutes ago, I have to comment!

I'm not really sure if that makes her a great pilot - I mean, who *wouldn't* have done that if they had been in her situation? Wasn't she just doing her job?
But she did it rapidly and instinctively! I've never seen that from Wesley.
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Old August 23 2007, 01:17 AM   #4
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Re: Was that one black chick a better helmsman than Wes?

In the real world, it's the difference between having an extra who isn't being paid to speak and a regular castmember who's drawing a check to yak his head off.

Still, you're right, pretty neat manouvre.
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Old August 23 2007, 01:18 AM   #5
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Re: Was that one black chick a better helmsman than Wes?

Is it Ensign Gates that you are referring to? Or Ensign Sariel Rager? I believe it may be the former/
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Old August 23 2007, 02:13 AM   #6
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Re: Was that one black chick a better helmsman than Wes?

Kegek said:
In the real world, it's the difference between having an extra who isn't being paid to speak and a regular castmember who's drawing a check to yak his head off.

Still, you're right, pretty neat manouvre.
Yeah, but they could've shown SOME skill in Wes' piloting.

And, Ensign Gates that's her.
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Old August 23 2007, 02:34 AM   #7
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Re: Was that one black chick a better helmsman than Wes?

She may have been doing her job, but no one ever yells at her, "SHUT UP, (name)!!!"

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Old August 23 2007, 02:40 AM   #8
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She may have been doing her job, but no one ever yells at her, "SHUT UP, (name)!!!"
So high self-esteem translates into piloting skill?

No wonder they've got a counselor on the bridge!
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Old August 23 2007, 02:40 AM   #9
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Re: Was that one black chick a better helmsman than Wes?

Fricken Wes! How something so vile came out of something so pure and beautiful as my Bev is beyond me.

Speaking of better helmsman....man that russian chick in season 4 was all kinds of awesome...
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Old August 23 2007, 03:07 AM   #10
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Re: Was that one black chick a better helmsman than Wes?

I was always fond of Ens. McKnight.
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Old August 23 2007, 03:18 AM   #11
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Re: Was that one black chick a better helmsman than Wes?

There were a whole bunch of Hottie McHotties around season 3 and 4. All of which could have run circles around stupid Wesley
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Old August 23 2007, 03:26 AM   #12
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Yeah, but they could've shown SOME skill in Wes' piloting.
Because we need another reminder about how great Wes was.
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Old August 23 2007, 03:27 AM   #13
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Re: Was that one black chick a better helmsman than Wes?

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Trekker4747 said:

Yeah, but they could've shown SOME skill in Wes' piloting.
Because we need another reminder about how great Wes was.
Touche'.
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Old August 23 2007, 05:57 AM   #14
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Re: Was that one black chick a better helmsman than Wes?

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Fricken Wes! How something so vile came out of something so pure and beautiful as my Bev is beyond me.
Ha!
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Old August 23 2007, 06:34 AM   #15
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Re: Was that one black chick a better helmsman than Wes?

Well, to be fair, Wes was really more of an engineer than a helmsman. When did LaForge do some spectacular piloting?
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