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Old April 29 2007, 05:34 AM   #1
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How would you re-imagine the NX-01 Enterprise?

I've read that many fans have a strong dislike for the "Akiraprise" ship used as Capt. Archer's NX-01 "Enterprise". I can see why people think it looks too much like it comes from the 24th century.

Having said that, if you could re-imagine the exterior visuals of the ship to make it look more like YOU would expect a 22nd century pre-Federation "old style Earth" starship to be, what would it look like? I'd like to see what people would prefer.

If you have CG models, please post here.
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Old April 29 2007, 05:52 AM   #2
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Re: How would you re-imagine the NX-01 Enterprise?

My only MAJOR beefs with the ship exterior are:

1) The STUPID "dish" design. I have a large Polar Lights NX-01 model which I plan to build as I think it SHOULD have been... that is, three dishes (one larger one in center, two smaller ones flanking it), each of which will be a true parabolic antennae dish (like the 1701 had). Perfectly circular and with a shallow parabolic sectional shape. Funny thing, the dishes I've picked up fit into that space BETTER than the "oblong funky-and-useless-shaped 'dish'" that they actually used in the show.

2) The paint scheme. I would have given the model a more TOS-ish color scheme and avoided anything TNG-ish (or TMP-ish, for that matter) COMPLETELY.

3) The excessive use of "tiering" in the hull shape. Unless there's a specific reason for having a two-foot "step" in the exterior surface of the hull... and I can't imagine it... I'd have gone much smoother overall.

4) The attempt to blend the TNG and TOS engine styles in the nacelles. I'd have left the EXTERIOR surfaces of the warp engines solid... put a big banner/logo along them... but would have the interior surfaces be pretty much exactly what we see on the existing model. And I'd have gone much more simple in terms of the aft shape... I always thought that the SPHERICAL element on the tip of the 1701's nacelle was the actual space-time distortion element (earlier versions probably had that sphere inside the structure?). So, making it "funky blobby shapes" without any clear logic behind the change sort of rubbed me the wrong way... like an attempt to capture the STYLE without any concern for the substance.

Actually, I'm thinking it would be pretty simple to "fix" a Polar Lights kit this way... I'm talking about the engine details... and the paint scheme... and I could have a later built version of that ship series.

I think I'll call her the Horizon. (Who's to say that the Daedalus class ship was the one that visited Iotia, anyway?)
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Old April 29 2007, 06:04 AM   #3
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Re: How would you re-imagine the NX-01 Enterprise?

Here's something I did a while back showing how I would have designed it.

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Old April 29 2007, 06:12 AM   #4
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Re: How would you re-imagine the NX-01 Enterprise?

I kinda wish they'd used the Intrepid model. IMO, that would have been satisfactory.
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Old April 29 2007, 06:31 AM   #5
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Re: How would you re-imagine the NX-01 Enterprise?

Check out Vektor's thread on the Vanguard. Thats exactly how I think they should have done it
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Old April 29 2007, 08:21 AM   #6
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Re: How would you re-imagine the NX-01 Enterprise?

Do you have to be gay, or queer for vektor, to get a thing approved around here? OyVey? It's such a Schmeckel!

If you're not gay, or ebony, or Vektor?! You're out!

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Check out Vektor's thread on the Vanguard. Thats exactly how I think they should have done it
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Old April 29 2007, 08:33 AM   #7
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Old April 29 2007, 08:45 AM   #8
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Old April 29 2007, 12:12 PM   #9
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Re: How would you re-imagine the NX-01 Enterprise?

I would agree with what Cary L. Brownand Flux Capacitor posted. The overall design was great and I personally didnt mind the hull but their mods to tie it to TOS would have made sence and would have pleased fans.

If not after initial complaints from the fan base I would have made NX-02 more like that and put the differences down to the NX-01 not being painted before launch (or something)

Although it does look like an after TOS styled hull it does match up to the Phoenix though.

I find the Akiraprise complaints interesting for one reason, long ago before Enterprise came out there was fan discussion on this forum (I was signed up under a different name back then which I completly forgot) about a future Enterprise. And alot of people wished for an Enterprise which wasnt an Enterprise.

Now this actually got alot of good responces about an Enterprise which broke the norms and wasnt like your usual Ent or even your normal Fed Starship. One of the most bounded about for the wishlist was the Akira.

To me it looked like the production people thought the thing and gave at least those people what they wanted.

I stll backup the design aspect that the Akira had a designer who went for the retro look of the NX class. Thing is I noticed something, First Contact gave us a number of new and very different ships in not only the Akira but the Steamrunner, Norway and Saber. All of these presented a break from the traditional Enterprise look (which maybe patly aluded to the discussion I mentioned above).

Now compare the Akira, Sabre and even the Norway to 22nd Cent Starfleet and they have some resemblence to the three ships we have there.

Thats completly off subject anyway (well partly), otherwise the NX had some great ideas like the grappler and phase canons that deploy from hatches (easy to repair, no EVA required) alot of the problems for me is the timing of when they had it. They should have stuck with primitive energy weapons shown in Broken Bow and either had a transporter which wasnt safe for people or not one at all. That way they could introduce this tech slowly as they encounter other species with it.
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Old April 29 2007, 02:07 PM   #10
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Re: How would you re-imagine the NX-01 Enterprise?

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Old April 29 2007, 09:36 PM   #11
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Re: How would you re-imagine the NX-01 Enterprise?

Although we know that the NX-01 was designed to look like the Akira because B and B liked the Akira the issue to me is not that it bears a resemblence in style, but that the technology of it looks 24th Century and not 22nd Century.

If it was Akira-like (single hull, arms extending to hold the pylons and nacelles) yet 22nd century looking, I wouldn't have any issue with it. What I think trek fans can't get over is that it doesn't bear a resemblence to a Constitution as if that's the menchmark for the Enterprises.

I ask why? The Ent B is a clone of and Excelsior class. Yes, I guess it could be said that the Excelsior follows the general principles of the Conny (Saucer, neck engineering hull, pylons attached to engineering hull going up with nacelles) but it it's entirely different ship.

Considering design lineage, I can't think of a reason that the NX-01 couldn't have been a forbearer to the Akira. Again though the issue to me is the fact that it looks 24th Century and not 22nd.

I saw this posted over at Starship Modeler and when Isaw it I thought that it would make a perfect NX-01.



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Old April 29 2007, 09:59 PM   #12
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Re: How would you re-imagine the NX-01 Enterprise?

I just would not change anything. I really, really love this ship. It is beautiful and graceful.
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Old April 29 2007, 10:55 PM   #13
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Re: How would you re-imagine the NX-01 Enterprise?

This was one of my attempts to make it a bit less of an ironclad predating a wooden sailing ship. Basically a much smaller and sleeker design that still borrows a lot from the version used.



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Old April 30 2007, 02:22 AM   #14
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Re: How would you re-imagine the NX-01 Enterprise?

That's not bad, ancient, not bad at all. :thumbsup:
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Old April 30 2007, 02:47 AM   #15
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Re: How would you re-imagine the NX-01 Enterprise?

I'd get rid of the saucer section entirely and make that an element of Andorian vessels. My main hull of the NX-01 would have been made from cylindrical shapes, with just a couple of hints of the future of ship design. The warp nacelles and their arrangement are fine.

Of course, I'd make other sweeping changes to the show. Cochrane's warp drive would have been unique to Earth at the time of its invention. The Vulcans would have less need for FTL with their longer lifespans and I'd have saddled them with a dogmatic acceptance of their own version of Special Relativity and believed FTL was impossible until Cochrane proved otherwise.
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