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Old March 13 2009, 12:57 AM   #451
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^ But that's still numbers.
Well, apparently the point that you were trying to make was not the one I got from your post.

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I'm not trying to start a stats battle here, because I don't have the research to back it up. However, I do think it's worth noting that just about everyone I know that watches BSG has caught onto it around about season 3.5. This is hardly definitive evidence, and I am NOT trying to pose it as such, but I imagine the reality of BSG's audience is much, much higher than that time-slot statistic indicates.
To bring in my own anecdotal audience, half of the people I know who watch the show stopped at various points during season two. Hell, until I got my new job late last year I thought that everybody else I knew who watched it had quit. So my personal experience lines up perfectly with Sci-fi's numbers.

I suppose it's possible that, as the measured audience has shrunk, the non-measured audience has stayed the same or even grown. I just don't think it terribly likely.
Interesting. May I ask why they stopped watching? Was it because of the show itself or Sci-Fi's notorious hiatuses? Or maybe we just have friends with completely opposite tastes. I also should say that many of mine aren't necessarily fans of science fiction, either.
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Old March 13 2009, 01:14 AM   #452
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The trend line makes it look like ratings have decline since season 3 but they really haven't. The ratings for seasons 3 and 4 are equivalent.
Season 3 on average, maybe, but the front half is noticeably higher than S4 (and the back half noticeably lower).

You're also ignoring that the trend line continues to drop because of the rather-abysmal "Razor" ratings, and that it actually picks up for S4.
Nah, season 3 just has more data points so it's more spread out. The averages are approximately equal. Also, the highest S3 point and the lowest 2 S3 points really skew things. Take out those 3 outliers and the ratings look much more flat withing S3. You're trying to read too much with too few points.

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Old March 13 2009, 08:09 AM   #453
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Interesting. May I ask why they stopped watching? Was it because of the show itself or Sci-Fi's notorious hiatuses? Or maybe we just have friends with completely opposite tastes. I also should say that many of mine aren't necessarily fans of science fiction, either.
Fairly certain it was the show, and not the hiatuses. All of them are SF fans, though.
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Old March 13 2009, 08:47 AM   #454
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Re: Ratings are in !

To be fair, while a drop in ratings could indicate a loss of quality, it just as easily could indicate something else. BSG, especially the new one, fits a very specific taste that not everyone will be into. It literally depicts a world where life's a bitch and then you die. The show may not fit a lot of tastes, but that won't make it bad either.

Though, I doubt the hiatus helped either, as you will not that the very first major drop came after the first hiatus. The lack of change after the second big hiatus shouldn't be looked at too closely mainly because the ratings were already scraping the bottom of the barrel. The hiatus may have knocked the ratings down here, just like I'm pretty sure it did to Jericho. There are very serialized shows, and they don't work well with monster-gaps in them.
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Old March 13 2009, 10:41 AM   #455
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To bring in my own anecdotal audience, half of the people I know who watch the show stopped at various points during season two. Hell, until I got my new job late last year I thought that everybody else I knew who watched it had quit. So my personal experience lines up perfectly with Sci-fi's numbers.
The problem here is that, as you said, it's really anecdotal. And my experience, for example, is completely different. Everyone I've introduced it to has literally soaked up the show from start to finish (that's through S4.0). And none of them has complained about any significant drop in quality on the way. I should point out that most of these people watched it on DVD.

Again, this really doesn't mean anything since it's such a small number of people.

Also, it's interesting to look at DVD sales in addition to ratings. I have a hard time digging up numbers. Here are the only sales figures I found, from The Numbers. I only found figures from the S2.5 DVD box set onwards. Also, all I found there were the total numbers for as long as the sets were within the top 30. Finally, these numbers are US only:

S2.5: Released September 19, 2006, entered the chart on #7, 3 weeks in the top 30, 263,516 units sold in that time, $8,997,580 earned in that time.

S3: Released March 18, 2008, entered the chart on #14, 4 weeks in the top 30, 303,458 units sold in that time, $11,821,313 earned in that time

Razor: Released December 4, 2007, entered the chart on #20, 1 week in the top 30, 147,768 units sold in that time, $2,953,882 earned in that time

S4.0: Released January 6, 2009, entered the chart on #6, 2 weeks in the top 30, 248,638 units sold in that time, $8,834,889 earned in that time

And here is a link (from the end of 2007, I must add) stating that nuBSG was doing very well in terms of DVD sales. I found some other sources saying it was doing well, but this was the only one where I was actually familiar with the source:

Battlestar Goes Boldy Into The DVD Universe (New York Times, Television)
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Old March 13 2009, 05:25 PM   #456
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Too much faith in the tastes of the average TV viewer is what that is. I guess American Idol is the greatest program ever aired
Actually, that would be Baywatch, which possibly isn't far from the truth!

Back to ratings, really who gives a shit. Beside, Sci-Fi might actually be clued up enough to realise that there's money to be made outside of questionable and arbitrary numbers.
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Old March 13 2009, 06:07 PM   #457
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Back to ratings, really who gives a shit. Beside, Sci-Fi might actually be clued up enough to realise that there's money to be made outside of questionable and arbitrary numbers.
There might be money to be made, but not by them; it's Universal who would be making any moneys from outside the broadcasts. (Though with Universal-the-production-company and Sci-Fi serving the same corporate overlords, there may be some nudging from above to keep the show on the air.)
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Old March 13 2009, 09:41 PM   #458
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^^ As far as Universal's concerned, Sci-Fi is a glorified shop-window
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Old March 13 2009, 11:26 PM   #459
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^^ As far as Universal's concerned, Sci-Fi is a glorified shop-window
Yes, but it's generally the shop and not the manufacturers who decides just what to put in the window.
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Old March 13 2009, 11:32 PM   #460
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Unless it's a part of a chain or a franchise that belongs to the manufacturer, that is.
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