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Old December 18 2006, 07:40 AM   #286
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Re: USS Grandeur - One... More... Time!

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1) Vektor, two to four more dorsal phasers to cover the dorsal aft section of the saucer like on the Ent-E would be good. :thumbsup:
There will be two more short phaser strips on the back of the neck section on either side of the docking bay, but I think any more than that would be overkill.

2) I also don't see any aft phasers for the stardrive or ventral phasers on the engineering hull.
I've got more phaser strips to add on various parts of the ship, I just haven't decided exactly where yet. Be patient.

3) And what about phaser strips atop the nacelles, like on the USS Venture?]
Not too keen on phaser strips on the nacelles. Off the top of my head, I can't think of a way to do it that wouldn't offend my sense of aesthetics. Maybe on the undersides of the nacelles but don't hold me to it.

4) You've got six forward torp launchers, but the aft coverage is nil?
Actually, I only have four forward torp launchers. The one below the deflector and the one on the underside of the saucer are single quantum torpedo launchers. There will most likely be another single quantorp launcher in the aft ventral region and at least one pair of photorp launchers on the back of the neck. Again, be patient.

5) Why do I get the feeling that this ship isn't going to be as long as the Sovereign or as wide as the Galaxy (given the height of the "main shuttlebay" behind the battle bridge)?
Probably because it's not as long as the Sovereign or as wide as the Galaxy. Current overall length is about 577 meters and overall width is about 243 meters. What you refer to as the "main shuttlebay" is actually a docking bay for an auxiliary vessel named the Blackfoot, which is much larger than a standard shuttle. Those doors are actually 25 meters wide by about 10 meters tall. The real main shuttle bay is at the back end of the secondary hull.

P.S. - Try to submit this to somebody who can add ship schematics for their online stories.
This is an example of where reading through the entire thread would be helpful. I am modeling this ship for a Trek fan club and have been doing so for going on four years. What exactly it winds up being used for is up to them.
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Old December 18 2006, 07:41 AM   #287
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Like that's suprising, considering this was essnetially Eaves' first design.
Say what?
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Old December 18 2006, 03:32 PM   #288
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^^^ The Ent-E was Eaves' first design: "I wanted a sleek, very fast ship with favourite elements from all the starships that had gone before, especially Bill George's Excelsior."

Vektor said:

Actually, I only have four forward torp launchers. The one below the deflector and the one on the underside of the saucer are single quantum torpedo launchers. There will most likely be another single quantorp launcher in the aft ventral region and at least one pair of photorp launchers on the back of the neck. Again, be patient.
Kinda weird how the size of one quantorp launcher is big enough to engulf two photorp launchers, but I guess that's for flexibility (at least I could imagine substituting those with two photorp launchers each in my fictional works and schematics) :thumbsup:

[At least your design is leaps and miles ahead of that backward Dawnstar-class design floating around the Internet. ]

Current overall length is about 577 meters and overall width is about 243 meters. What you refer to as the "main shuttlebay" is actually a docking bay for an auxiliary vessel named the Blackfoot, which is much larger than a standard shuttle. Those doors are actually 25 meters wide by about 10 meters tall. The real main shuttle bay is at the back end of the secondary hull.

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This is an example of where reading through the entire thread would be helpful. I am modeling this ship for a Trek fan club and have been doing so for going on four years. What exactly it winds up being used for is up to them.
Fair enough

[But the only shuttlebay? That's highly unusual for a big, post-Ambassador ship, is it not? ]
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Old December 22 2006, 11:09 PM   #289
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There does appear to be some similarity between Eaves' design and this one, although that may be a coincidence.
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Old December 23 2006, 06:03 AM   #290
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^^^ Actually no. I said that the Sovereign resembled the Excelsior. Vektor's design reminds me a little bit about Probert's initial Ambassador design.

[Given that the saucer isn't elliptical for greater width as the Galaxy, and given the look of its neck - even in spite of the Galaxy-like hull around the deflector dish]
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Old January 6 2007, 02:18 AM   #291
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Sorry for der bump, but this 5-star thread can't die just yet.
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Old January 6 2007, 02:35 AM   #292
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^Damn! And here I was all excited to see some new renders!
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Old January 6 2007, 02:37 AM   #293
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^ Likewise.
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Old January 6 2007, 06:19 AM   #294
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Well, I hate to see people suffer, so here's a little something to tide y'all over.

Shiny (DivX 6.4, 3MB)
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Old January 6 2007, 06:23 AM   #295
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Beautiful.
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Old January 6 2007, 06:24 AM   #296
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<gurgle> Wow! :thumbsup:
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Old January 6 2007, 06:58 AM   #297
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Old January 6 2007, 07:42 AM   #298
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Practically perfect in every way.
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Old January 6 2007, 08:26 AM   #299
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It's amazing how you evoke a very retrofuturist styling here and in your Vanguard, but in very different ways. As if one is a very conservative flying saucer, and the other a wild Harley Earl rocket ship. It's the curve and angle of those pylons, and the fins. A little touch that makes all the difference in the world.
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Old January 6 2007, 09:47 AM   #300
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Vektor-
This ship is amazing! I love that animation. The folks over at the Grandeur sim are very lucky. Excellent work!
Looking forward to more,
J


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