The Doctor Who primer - Page 5

Cutter John · January 8 2007, 12:49 PM

A very charming little fan-made music video made up of lots of little clips from the shows history. Hopefully informative for noobs, and nostalgic for us old-timers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68JLF...elated&search=

Pingfah · January 8 2007, 01:52 PM

Does anyone think this forum is getting more popular?

Everytime I look at the front page, DW consistently has numbers approaching those of Misc and General Sci-fi.

Emh · January 8 2007, 01:57 PM

Yeah, I saw that video awhile ago (probably in my thread about combination of opening sequences). It's a good tribute video with a lovely appropriate song. A little heavy on the Tenth Doctor, I think, but that's not terribly surprising. And not enough Romana I. And I don't think I saw K-9 at all.

Cutter John · January 8 2007, 02:24 PM

^ There was one quick shot of him on the riverbank with the 4th Doctor. From Full Circle I believe. But I think that was it.

Csalem · January 8 2007, 02:33 PM

Pingfah said:
Does anyone think this forum is getting more popular?

Everytime I look at the front page, DW consistently has numbers approaching those of Misc and General Sci-fi.

I've noticed that also. It has more topics and posts than Lost and SG and nearly more posts than BSG. It is doing very well. Though it probably helps that the show has such a long history than discussions on a wide range of topics can appear, along with Torchwood and Sarah-Jane adventures. The Books don't seem to be discussed, but on a side note I saw the first Torchwood book in a shop the other day but am not buying it.

Pingfah · January 8 2007, 03:17 PM

^ Given that the books are usually a slightly inferior experience to the show, that's a definite no!

WillsBabe · January 9 2007, 08:24 AM

Cutter John said:
A very charming little fan-made music video made up of lots of little clips from the shows history. Hopefully informative for noobs, and nostalgic for us old-timers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68JLF...elated&search=

Very nostalgic. The shot of Sarah Jane leaving with her posessions really took me back. She's holding a toy owl. Those were really popular toys for girls at the time, I remember my friend having loads of them!

V\'ger · January 15 2007, 11:30 PM

I wouldn't be so harsh on the books. They kept WHO fandom alive and many of the new series writers, such as Gareth Roberts, Paul Cornell, and even RTD himself-wrote for the line during the Wilderness years. Some of the concepts from the books have also made their way into the series.

23skidoo · March 26 2007, 08:29 PM

I wonder if it isn't time to unpin this version of the primer and update it with more detail about the Tenth Doctor, Rose, etc.?

Cheers!

Alex

Smiley · June 14 2007, 06:10 PM

Brendan Moody said:

Smiley said:
Is there a relatively affordable way to get Doctor Who DVDs in the US?

I'm not quite sure what you're asking. With the exception of the 1996 tv-movie, which probably won't be released here due to complicated rights issues, every classic Doctor Who story that is released in the UK is eventually available in R1 as well, usually with a lag of less than a year. Availability in retail locations can be spotty, especially lately, but Amazon.com and other online companies always sell them. The MSRP is $25 for a single-disc release, $35 for a two-disc story, and $50 for a three-disc box set, but many retailers discount them, and the MSRP also drops eventually. dvdpricesearch.com is a good place to check for releases that fit your definition of relatively cheap.

The new series boxsets are also being released here, after each season completes its run on Sci-Fi. They retail for a steep $100.

I'm back after doing a little more research. I used Season 16, The Key to Time, as a case study. All six serials are out on DVD currently. Buying all six new from Deep Discount DVD would be $79.44. Even during the 20% off sale, that would be $63.55. That's more than I'm willing to pay for a season of television.

Besides buying used or scouring eBay for local sellers, what options are there for the casual fan? Will there ever be price drops or actual season sets for the classic Who? Even Star Trek, which gouged its fans on initial release, gave TOS season sets and has already slashed prices on TNG and DS9. What chance is there of something like that happening for Who?

Brendan Moody · June 14 2007, 06:27 PM

Smiley said:
Will there ever be price drops

Well, as I alluded to in my earlier post, the MSRP drops $5 on each release after a few years, but I doubt that's enough of a drop to help you much.

or actual season sets

Yes. Once all the individual stories in a particular season have been released, there will sometime later be a season set at a somewhat reduced price. I don't know that that lower price will appeal to you much, though.

Also, a couple seasons will probably be released as boxsets to begin with. Examples include Season 16 (now available in Region 1 and soon to be replaced in both R1 and R2 with a spiffier version) and Season 23 (not released anywhere yet).

Even Star Trek, which gouged its fans on initial release, gave TOS season sets and has already slashed prices on TNG and DS9.

Classic Doctor Who is even more niche than Star Trek, and each individual story these days has about as much in the way of extras as a full season of Trek. None of which helps the casual fan, of course, but that is why the prices are so steep, and why they're not likely to go down all that much, even over time.

Smiley · June 14 2007, 07:19 PM

Thanks for all your help, Brendan. It sounds like my best bet for now is to borrow some of these from my Whovian acquaintances, at least until I know what clicks for me.

Mutenroshi · July 6 2007, 10:57 AM

Good news everyone! I've just started to watch Season One with Eccleston as the Doctor. And I must say I'm quite enjoying the show. I was somewhat exposed to the show before that. I saw the TV movie once, like, 10 years ago and was left somewhat intrigued. And then I saw the Curse of the Fatal Death when I lived in England.
This show is... FAN-TAS-TIC!!!

EDIT TO ADD:
There's been a persistent rumor among Pink Floyd fans concerning Doctor Who's Theme and the song One Of These Days. Can you confirm?

Australis · July 6 2007, 12:49 PM

Does 'One Of These Days' sound like the Who theme? Yes, as does 'Sheep' from the album Animals.

Mutenroshi · July 6 2007, 01:25 PM

^The part with "The Lord is my shepherd"? Ok, I get it. It must be the bass rhythm!
Thanks Australis :thumbsup:

January 8 2007, 12:49 PM	#61
Cutter John Rear Admiral Location: Beyond the wall of sleep, just south of Seattle.	Re: The Doctor Who primer A very charming little fan-made music video made up of lots of little clips from the shows history. Hopefully informative for noobs, and nostalgic for us old-timers. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68JLF...elated&search= __________________ "The way I see it, every life is a pile of good things and bad things. The good things don't always soften the bad things. But vice versa, the bad things don't necessarily spoil the good things or make them unimportant."

January 8 2007, 01:52 PM	#62
Pingfah Admiral Location: Cornwall	Re: The Doctor Who primer Does anyone think this forum is getting more popular? Everytime I look at the front page, DW consistently has numbers approaching those of Misc and General Sci-fi. __________________ I won't be a rock star. I will be a legend. Freddie Mercury

January 8 2007, 01:57 PM	#63
Emh The Doctor Location: Japan	Re: The Doctor Who primer Yeah, I saw that video awhile ago (probably in my thread about combination of opening sequences). It's a good tribute video with a lovely appropriate song. A little heavy on the Tenth Doctor, I think, but that's not terribly surprising. And not enough Romana I. And I don't think I saw K-9 at all. __________________ "Eccleston was a tiger and Tennant was, well, Tigger. Smith [is] an uncoordinated housecat who pretends that he meant to do that after falling off a piece of furniture." - Lynne M. Thomas "I'm in Hell and it's full of Avons!" - Vila

January 8 2007, 02:24 PM	#64
Cutter John Rear Admiral Location: Beyond the wall of sleep, just south of Seattle.	Re: The Doctor Who primer ^ There was one quick shot of him on the riverbank with the 4th Doctor. From Full Circle I believe. But I think that was it. __________________ "The way I see it, every life is a pile of good things and bad things. The good things don't always soften the bad things. But vice versa, the bad things don't necessarily spoil the good things or make them unimportant."

January 8 2007, 03:17 PM	#66
Pingfah Admiral Location: Cornwall	Re: The Doctor Who primer ^ Given that the books are usually a slightly inferior experience to the show, that's a definite no! __________________ I won't be a rock star. I will be a legend. Freddie Mercury

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January 15 2007, 11:30 PM	#68
V\'ger Rear Admiral	Re: The Doctor Who primer I wouldn't be so harsh on the books. They kept WHO fandom alive and many of the new series writers, such as Gareth Roberts, Paul Cornell, and even RTD himself-wrote for the line during the Wilderness years. Some of the concepts from the books have also made their way into the series.
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March 26 2007, 08:29 PM	#69
23skidoo Admiral Location: Fifth Circle of Hell	Re: The Doctor Who primer I wonder if it isn't time to unpin this version of the primer and update it with more detail about the Tenth Doctor, Rose, etc.? Cheers! Alex __________________ "These are historical documents - preserving them is important. Tarting them up for a night out in the twenty-first century is unnecessary" - Toby Hadoke, "Should mistakes in old episodes of Doctor Who be fixed on DVD" (Doctor Who Magazine #445)

June 14 2007, 07:19 PM	#72
Smiley Rear Admiral Location: Chandler, AZ	Re: The Doctor Who primer Thanks for all your help, Brendan. It sounds like my best bet for now is to borrow some of these from my Whovian acquaintances, at least until I know what clicks for me.

July 6 2007, 10:57 AM	#73
Mutenroshi 亀仙人 - 武天老師 Location: Mutenroshi	Re: The Doctor Who primer Good news everyone! I've just started to watch Season One with Eccleston as the Doctor. And I must say I'm quite enjoying the show. I was somewhat exposed to the show before that. I saw the TV movie once, like, 10 years ago and was left somewhat intrigued. And then I saw the Curse of the Fatal Death when I lived in England. This show is... FAN-TAS-TIC!!! EDIT TO ADD: There's been a persistent rumor among Pink Floyd fans concerning Doctor Who's Theme and the song One Of These Days. Can you confirm? __________________ Let There Be Rock! Jack Beauregard: "You shine like the door of a whorehouse!" *Nobody:* "I like folks to see me."

July 6 2007, 12:49 PM	#74
Australis Writer Location: The Electric Age	Re: The Doctor Who primer Does 'One Of These Days' sound like the Who theme? Yes, as does 'Sheep' from the album Animals. __________________ I will not accept tyranny, any tyranny, even that of Heaven - Terry Pratchett. Always choose cognac over cocaine. -- Jon Lord

July 6 2007, 01:25 PM	#75
Mutenroshi 亀仙人 - 武天老師 Location: Mutenroshi	Re: The Doctor Who primer ^The part with "The Lord is my shepherd"? Ok, I get it. It must be the bass rhythm! Thanks Australis :thumbsup: __________________ Let There Be Rock! Jack Beauregard: "You shine like the door of a whorehouse!" *Nobody:* "I like folks to see me."