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Old March 3 2015, 04:01 PM   #1
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Let's score how badly Riker did in Generations.

First I acknowledge every character makes a mistake from time to time. Kirk did in not raising his shields when he was approaching the Reliant, Spock admitted in "Unification" he made a mistake by putting Kirk and the Enterprise in the position he did in TUC, which is why he's taking on the Romulan peace opportunity by himself. Picard by getting a little too arrogant to Q about how great humanity was and Q decided to teach him a lesson by introducing them to the Borg to show how wrong Picard was. There was also that one where Picard let a Romulan spy get away thinking she was a Vulcan ambassador that had died in the transporter.

So no one is perfect.

But it is quite impressive when you look at just HOW many mistakes and to what degree he made them in "Generations". So I'm going to try and apply a tangible number to them.

Before that let's review what we have learned about William T. Riker over 7 years of TNG.

1. Highly competent. Picard never hesitated to leave the Enterprise under Riker's command and had no doubts what so ever about his abilities. Riker is offered his own ship several times but is happy on the Enterprise so that, plus the fact Frakes wanted to stay on the show, causes him to turn those chances down.

2. Extremely intelligent. Knows the ship an its procedures extremely well. Is good at reading people. Demonstrates an ability to quickly analyze and adapt to sudden changes.

3. Is able to think outside the box and not always go "by the book" Best demonstrated with his strategy to not just keep shooting at the Borg but to kidnap Loutus and see if he could tap into the Borg that way. Will disobey orders if he feels it's not in the best interests of the ship or the mission.

4. Strong leader, but not a tyrant who won't listen to suggestions from his subordinated.

5. Cool headed. Doesn't panic in situations where things looke extremely bad, instead realizes it serves no good and continues to look for a solution.

6. One of the best pilots in starfleet, mentioned several times in the series.

7. Unafraid to take risks. Shown best when he thought the battle against the Borg was over and he was seconds away from ordering the Enterprise to jump to warp and collide with the Borg in a last ditch attempt to destroy them.

8. Almost universally respected by his peers. Jellico hated him and Shelby had a bug up her ass about him for a while. Other than that seems to be well liked and respected by every other starfleet officer.

So keeping all of this in mind let's analyze and score his actions in "Generations" at key decision points where, if he'd made any one of these choices differently, it probably would have won the battle without losing the Enterprise. I'll give two points if Riker made the right decision. 1 point if he made a bad decision, but not the worst one, and zero if he made the worst decision possible.

1. LaForge beaming aboard. So given the fact that LaForge had been captured by the evil Duras sisters and a guy who was very good with electronics and liked to tinker, it would have made sense for Riker to order a complete physical on LaForge.....especially on the damn visor, especially since it's been used before by enemies to try and fulfill their plan, to make sure nothing was done to Geordi and/or the visor that might jeopardize the ship........Instead it seems like a quick look was done and he was given the OK to return to duty. I guess Riker maybe trusted Crusher too much and she was Lazy, but still he should have really been on top of this- so I'll give him a 1.

2. Having weapons locked on the BOP. So as the Enterprise and the BOP are facing off, it seems like the Enterprise is just waiting there feeling all safe behind its shields. Why not have the weapons powered up and locked on the BOP as well. It's not some unknown ship and you don't want to provoke it, it's the Duras who are murderous thugs who want to kill everyone aboard the ship, so why not be as prepared as possible. Plus if the weapons are locked they might be able to fire them in time to hit the first photon torpedoes the BOP fires. Bad decision, but I'll still give him a 1.

3. Position of the Enterprise. So if this missile could hit the sun in 15 seconds or so (damn that thing is fast) and the Enterprise couldn't be sure of getting a good lock on it. Why not move the Enterprise away from the planet towards the star where it would be in a much better firing position to stop it? If the Duras try to stop you, blow them away, they didn't have the Enterprise shield freq at this point and couldn't have done a thing. Bad strategy. Score-0

4. Pull some trickery. So even though he's he not Kirk in this department (Give me a minute to inform my crew in back to back films) Riker has pulled a double cross or two. As soon as Geordi is beamed why not immediately beam Picard back and open fire on Soran's missile with everything they have, I can't imagine the shield was that strong. And if the BOP tries to interfere, again, blow them away. It seemed though Picard picked one of his "I gave psychos my word, and god forbid I go back on it" moments. So maybe Riker was hesitant to act thinking Picard would solve it. So I'll give him a 1

5. BOP of fires penetrating the shields: Should Riker have instantly thought of how they did it and taken a logical course of action....YES!!!! Since the Borg it's been SOP to rotate shield frequencies. If Riker had given this one simple order the damage would have been limited to the first torpedo striked. Major fail-0 points

6. Did it make sense to fight back-ABSOLUTELY!!!! This is a 20 year old BOP and the shields probably aren't in top working order. The Enterprise has massive firepower. Open up with everything you've got and the shields will collapse rather quickly. Also while the shields are still the BOP will be having the living hell shaken out of it which would probably make targeting more difficult and might cause systems to fail from the massive vibrations it's experiencing. Instead Riker fires one phaser shot, kind of panics and decides to run. EPIC FAIL- 0 points

7. So since Riker decided to run....did he retreat in the best way possible? He could have ordered warp speed any heading, like Picard several times, gotten away from the attack, regrouped made a plan and warped back in a matter of minutes. Of course the warp engines may have already been off line since they are always the first thing to fail in battle. So if he runs on impulse the best strategy is to hit full impulse, head towards the BOP and blow right past it and keep on going. This way you keep the less vulnerable front of the ship facing the weapons and don't turn profile presenting a much larger target, or expose the more vulnerable back of the ship with it's warp engines. Also by the time the Enterprise passes the BOP it'll have a good head of steam built up and the BOP will probably have to turn around slowly and work up its engines to try and catch the Enterprise which already has a good head start. It will also probably throw off their targeting probably causing less shots to hit as the Enterprise is coming towards it.
Instead Riker gives the incredibly non specific order "Get us out of orbit...which involves turning the Enterprise around slowly 180 degrees, exposing its broadside to fire and then once it's turned having to start its engines from basically a dead stop and gain speed, all while the back side is exposed and the BOP could have already fired up her engines and closed the range and keep up as the Enterprise accelerates. Score for terrible retreat decision-0

8. Should the Enterprise fire with her rear weapons as she's fleeing? Why the hell not? Can't hurt and might cause enough damage so the BOP has to break off....But nope. No need to do that, we've already established an obsolete BOP with its shields up is invincible against one of starfleets most powerful ships. Score-0

9. When the helmsman is blown out of his station who does Riker have take over. Data? Well he is a little f'ed up from the emotion chip so he might have been risky, but he still has android reflexes. Worf? Well doesn't helm the ship very much, but probably knows enough to fill in in a pinch. How about Riker himself? One of the best pilots in starfleet, sure to be extremely familiar with the helm. Some would say he couldn't do it because he had to give orders....well the Enterprise bridge isn't exactly the Superdome. I'm sure he could yell orders loud enough for people to hear and people would be smart enough to come to him with any info. I don't think it's unreasonable to think a guy with Riker's skills could multi-task in this situation.....So instead he goes with Deanna....WAIT DEANNA!!!! Wasn't she just trying to become qualified at helm at the end of TNG? How experienced could she possibly be by "Generations" It's almost a sure bet she never helmed in combat or when the ship was being sucked into the atmosphere. If any of the other three were at the helm, especially Riker, there's a much better chance the ship is handled better during battle, maybe the Enterprise doesn't suffer fatal damage and even if it does the more experienced helm person may be able to make corrections that keeps the saucer in orbit so it's not a total loss. Nope...Deanna is our man. It's like she had just learned to drive on country back roads and suddenly she's skilled enough to handle Los Angeles during rush hour. 0 points. I wish I could give it a -1 for it's sheer stupidity.

10. Asking others for advice. Yes he does eventually does this which saves them from all being killed, but it took several minutes of the Enterprise getting it's ass kicked before he did so. Had he immediately asked for suggestions Data or Worf may have suggested a different course of action or come with the plasma coil thing quicker before the BOP fired the fatal shot. So yeah he relied on others but mostly too little too late. Score-1

So there it is. 10 key decision points, any one of which that had been made differently might have been a total victory, not resulted in the loss of the ship and could have avoided Kirk dying as well.

20 points possible for the decisions made. And Riker gets a whopping 4 points. Not a single one of which comes from him making the absolute correct decision.

Really can't believe Frakes, after 7 seasons of creating this character who was kind of unlikable in the first season or two but well liked by the end of the show because Frakes helped the character grow, actually read this scene and was "OK let's roll cameras"

Shatner and Nimoy would have gone through the roof if they'd been asked to film this scene and I think even Stewart would have probably demanded a lot of it be changed so he didn't look like an incompetent idiot.

Talk about a complete and utter character trashing. Don't think Riker was ever the same character after this. Not that the last 3 films gave him many opportunities.
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Old March 3 2015, 05:26 PM   #2
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Fire phasers and photon torpedoes on a geriatric ship? Nope. Plasma coils!
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Old March 3 2015, 05:45 PM   #3
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Shouldn't this be in the movie forum?
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Old March 3 2015, 07:53 PM   #4
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Shouldn't this be in the movie forum?
I debated that...but since it was Riker as a whole character I put it here.

Maybe I made the wrong decision.....Looks like Will and I have something in common.
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Old March 6 2015, 02:57 PM   #5
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Commander Riker's the best First Officer in the fleet! That's it and all about it ...
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Old March 6 2015, 10:29 PM   #6
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First I acknowledge every character makes a mistake from time to time. Kirk did in not raising his shields when he was approaching the Reliant,

So no one is perfect.
Yeah, it's common for starfleet officers to raise shields on a ship that's... STAR FLEET???
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So keeping all of this in mind let's analyze and score his actions in "Generations" at key decision points where, if he'd made any one of these choices differently, it probably would have won the battle without losing the Enterprise. I'll give two points if Riker made the right decision. 1 point if he made a bad decision, but not the worst one, and zero if he made the worst decision possible.

1. LaForge beaming aboard. So given the fact that LaForge had been captured by the evil Duras sisters and a guy who was very good with electronics and liked to tinker, it would have made sense for Riker to order a complete physical on LaForge.....especially on the damn visor, especially since it's been used before by enemies to try and fulfill their plan, to make sure nothing was done to Geordi and/or the visor that might jeopardize the ship........Instead it seems like a quick look was done and he was given the OK to return to duty. I guess Riker maybe trusted Crusher too much and she was Lazy, but still he should have really been on top of this- so I'll give him a 1.
Very easy to judge after you've seen the results. Although the writing was bad, I don't think it's Riker's fault. Worf was the weapons guy, and Data the Ops manager; they should've figured it out and re-compensate the shields. I'm giving him a 2.

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2. Having weapons locked on the BOP. So as the Enterprise and the BOP are facing off, it seems like the Enterprise is just waiting there feeling all safe behind its shields. Why not have the weapons powered up and locked on the BOP as well. It's not some unknown ship and you don't want to provoke it, it's the Duras who are murderous thugs who want to kill everyone aboard the ship, so why not be as prepared as possible. Plus if the weapons are locked they might be able to fire them in time to hit the first photon torpedoes the BOP fires. Bad decision, but I'll still give him a 1.
Probably hoping Picard would not be harmed when they made the trade for Geordi. But the Enterprise were on Red Alert, but they're NOT Klingons or DS9 where the crew has itchy trigger fingers. Not Rikers fault. He gets a 2.

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3. Position of the Enterprise. So if this missile could hit the sun in 15 seconds or so (damn that thing is fast) and the Enterprise couldn't be sure of getting a good lock on it. Why not move the Enterprise away from the planet towards the star where it would be in a much better firing position to stop it? If the Duras try to stop you, blow them away, they didn't have the Enterprise shield freq at this point and couldn't have done a thing. Bad strategy. Score-0
This doesn't make any sense, and neither did the film. Enterprise heading near a Sun to wait for an approaching missile seems very stupid and not fully realizing the actual size of a SUN??? Riker staying near Veridian 3 get a 2.

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4. Pull some trickery. So even though he's he not Kirk in this department (Give me a minute to inform my crew in back to back films) Riker has pulled a double cross or two. As soon as Geordi is beamed why not immediately beam Picard back and open fire on Soran's missile with everything they have, I can't imagine the shield was that strong. And if the BOP tries to interfere, again, blow them away. It seemed though Picard picked one of his "I gave psychos my word, and god forbid I go back on it" moments. So maybe Riker was hesitant to act thinking Picard would solve it. So I'll give him a 1
Yeah, Red Letter Media's Mr. Plinkett made the same scenario, but I think at this point Georgi's expendable and Picard should've destroyed the Bird of Prey or at least cripple it's defenses. That's a Picard blunder not Riker's. So unless Riker was going to perform mutiny he's getting a 2.

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5. BOP of fires penetrating the shields: Should Riker have instantly thought of how they did it and taken a logical course of action....YES!!!! Since the Borg it's been SOP to rotate shield frequencies. If Riker had given this one simple order the damage would have been limited to the first torpedo striked. Major fail-0 points
No. Worf and Data should have been doing their jobs. So Riker is getting a 2.

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6. Did it make sense to fight back-ABSOLUTELY!!!! This is a 20 year old BOP and the shields probably aren't in top working order. The Enterprise has massive firepower. Open up with everything you've got and the shields will collapse rather quickly. Also while the shields are still the BOP will be having the living hell shaken out of it which would probably make targeting more difficult and might cause systems to fail from the massive vibrations it's experiencing. Instead Riker fires one phaser shot, kind of panics and decides to run. EPIC FAIL- 0 points
I was surprised how slow the Enterprise was in the movie. Even at impulse power the ship can haul. Again this is the result of bad writing. No fail here from Riker but the writing and it's Director = a 2.

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7. So since Riker decided to run....did he retreat in the best way possible? He could have ordered warp speed any heading, like Picard several times, gotten away from the attack, regrouped made a plan and warped back in a matter of minutes. Of course the warp engines may have already been off line since they are always the first thing to fail in battle. So if he runs on impulse the best strategy is to hit full impulse, head towards the BOP and blow right past it and keep on going. This way you keep the less vulnerable front of the ship facing the weapons and don't turn profile presenting a much larger target, or expose the more vulnerable back of the ship with it's warp engines. Also by the time the Enterprise passes the BOP it'll have a good head of steam built up and the BOP will probably have to turn around slowly and work up its engines to try and catch the Enterprise which already has a good head start. It will also probably throw off their targeting probably causing less shots to hit as the Enterprise is coming towards it.
Instead Riker gives the incredibly non specific order "Get us out of orbit...which involves turning the Enterprise around slowly 180 degrees, exposing its broadside to fire and then once it's turned having to start its engines from basically a dead stop and gain speed, all while the back side is exposed and the BOP could have already fired up her engines and closed the range and keep up as the Enterprise accelerates. Score for terrible retreat decision-0
Yeah, that's Deep Space Nine. I saw something as outrageous when Kira warped to the Bajoran Sun to destroy a bomb. Trek has created it's own rules on Warp speed, and time variance when traveling. They would have to warp to another system which would take an hour or more and then come back. This is because the Warp engines are creating a tunnel for flight while the Navigation is set to avoid a Sun or an Asteroid. In both cases to do such an act violates all the rules establish and throwing shit on the wall. It can be done because the writers and yourself haven't done their homework. Retreating is wise, HE's NOT A KLINGON! score is a 2.

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8. Should the Enterprise fire with her rear weapons as she's fleeing? Why the hell not? Can't hurt and might cause enough damage so the BOP has to break off....But nope. No need to do that, we've already established an obsolete BOP with its shields up is invincible against one of starfleets most powerful ships. Score-0
It's one of the strangest Star Trek movies I've ever seen, it seems Riker, Worf, and Data dropped the ball; definitely these characters were out of character. So I'm forced to agree there.

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9. When the helmsman is blown out of his station who does Riker have take over. Data? Well he is a little f'ed up from the emotion chip so he might have been risky, but he still has android reflexes. Worf? Well doesn't helm the ship very much, but probably knows enough to fill in in a pinch. How about Riker himself? One of the best pilots in starfleet, sure to be extremely familiar with the helm. Some would say he couldn't do it because he had to give orders....well the Enterprise bridge isn't exactly the Superdome. I'm sure he could yell orders loud enough for people to hear and people would be smart enough to come to him with any info. I don't think it's unreasonable to think a guy with Riker's skills could multi-task in this situation.....So instead he goes with Deanna....WAIT DEANNA!!!! Wasn't she just trying to become qualified at helm at the end of TNG? How experienced could she possibly be by "Generations" It's almost a sure bet she never helmed in combat or when the ship was being sucked into the atmosphere. If any of the other three were at the helm, especially Riker, there's a much better chance the ship is handled better during battle, maybe the Enterprise doesn't suffer fatal damage and even if it does the more experienced helm person may be able to make corrections that keeps the saucer in orbit so it's not a total loss. Nope...Deanna is our man. It's like she had just learned to drive on country back roads and suddenly she's skilled enough to handle Los Angeles during rush hour. 0 points. I wish I could give it a -1 for it's sheer stupidity.
Yeah, the movie didn't make Troi look good, I'm guessing it's a way to give Marina Sirtis screen time. I agree with you there. Riker should have piloted the ship. But I can't understand the kind of shockwave the ship had after it exploded. It wasn't a Genesis Bomb or the goofy bomb in the movie; the ship just exploded and all of sudden it's shockwave is as powerful as a sun. Strange. Troi didn't piloted the saucer for battle nor to crash it, the shockwave was unTREKlike. He gets a 2.

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10. Asking others for advice. Yes he does eventually does this which saves them from all being killed, but it took several minutes of the Enterprise getting it's ass kicked before he did so. Had he immediately asked for suggestions Data or Worf may have suggested a different course of action or come with the plasma coil thing quicker before the BOP fired the fatal shot. So yeah he relied on others but mostly too little too late. Score-1
Not Riker's fault, his staff Data and Worf should have picked that up BEFORE Riker asking about anything. Score is a 2.

Total Riker gets is an 18.
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Old March 7 2015, 06:26 AM   #8
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Riker isn't the problem, it's the situation itself. Everything in the battle scene conspires against the Enterprise, because the script-writers have got their little note saying "Let's blow up the ship and replace it with a new one", and don't really care how they achieve that. Riker handles the actual battle fine... his actions are justifiable... but then the Enterprise suddenly blows a head gasket after the battle is already over, which is the damn stupid thing.

GEORDI: "Must've been that last torpedo." [...] "We've got a coolant leak, there's nothing we can do."

The problem happens as a consequence of the battle, but the movie offers no real explanation why the ship suddenly has an unfixable problem. Why can't Geordi fix it? Why not just eject the fricken warp core? Answers are not forthcoming.
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Sorry for the double post here guys, but I've now come back from watching the entire 'battle sequence', and I'm gonna fly in here in defence of Riker's competency.

A blow-by-blow analysis:

* The first thing we need to bare in mind is that the Enterprise is caught with its pants down (metaphorically speaking. ) Sure, failing to do the spot-check on Geordi's VISOR was arguably a stupid move, and it's that failure above all else which sets events in motion. I won't deny that. However, it might just be excused as simply an oversight. Maybe. Whatever, my point here is that the Enterprise crew are caught on the back foot when the BOP suddenly and unexpectedly manages to breach their shields.

* So what do we see? We see the BOP fires two torpedoes, both of which are direct hits. Those are impacts that *aren't* be absorbed by shields *at all*, as would have normally happened. Riker's first action is to order return fire with the phasers, which hits the BOP but doesn't do much damage (given their shields are still up). The BOP returns fire with a couple disruptor shots, one of which misses and one hits. This causes the helm officer to become incapacitated.

* Riker's next course of action is to order Deanna to take the ship out of orbit. Maybe he does this because he's just worried if the BOP takes them out while they're still in orbit, then they'll fall into the atmosphere and it'll be bye-bye Enterprise (think TOS: "The Naked Time"). Who knows? Anyway, it's a justfied maneuver IMO.

* So, while this is happening, Riker engages what the OP refers to as his "ability to quickly analyze and adapt to sudden changes". He doesn't just sit there and suck it up as the OP seems to suggest; he's out of the command chair and pacing the bridge asking for suggestions. They ultimately hit upon the plasma coil being the BOP's weakness, and Riker orders Data to get to work on forcing the BOP to lower shields/cloak. He doesn't hesitate or anything, he asks for advice and then acts decisively in ordering a course of action. Perfectly in character.

* While all of this is going on, we see/hear evidence of further disruptor shots (we don't see the visuals, but we hear the impacts in the background and see the actors shake). Engineering in particular starts falling to pieces.

* Data engages the BOP's cloak, and Riker cooly orders Worf to "fire".

Go back and watch the sequence of events again, and there's nothing to suggest Riker's incompetency. Certainly, the destruction of the Enterprise happens after the battle (where the Enterprise has been triumphant), as Geordi's attempts to hold engineering together finally fall to pieces...

We need to cut Riker some slack because the sequence of events means the ship is getting hit with firepower without the buffer of the shields to help soften the blow. From the crew's perspective this comes out of no-where and is extremely potent. It's no wonder the situation gets chaotic very quickly, but Riker himself retains his composure and his commanding presence throughout. He doesn't drop the ball nearly as badly as some commentators on the internet seem to suggest.

Now, Geordi on the other hand, both accidentally facilitates the surprise attack in the first place (though how much of that is down to Beverly clearing him for duty is questionable), and fails to keep engineering together or offer any alternative other than "We're screwed" once the s**t starts to hit the fan. He's clearly the one suffering from an epic case of 'Fail' here.

By any measure, I'd go as far as to say the ship's destruction was just an unlucky fluke, and was not attributable to the actions of the crew at all (except by way of accident, vis-a-vis Geordi's VISOR).

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Riker is made to look a total fool in the GEN battle scene, but what you have to remember was that the producers wanted the Ent-D dead and buried, in order to have a shiny, new, movie-worthy ship.

The scene just should have been better written, plain and simple. Instead, they went against some of the character's strongest instincts. Peak Performance showed how strong Riker could be in combat with an inferior ship, and of course The Best of Both Worlds had him going toe to toe with the Borg.
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Riker's reputation has been severely damaged by that movie.
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Now, Geordi on the other hand, both accidentally facilitates the surprise attack in the first place (though how much of that is down to Beverly clearing him for duty is questionable), and fails to keep engineering together or offer any alternative other than "We're screwed" once the s**t starts to hit the fan. He's clearly the one suffering from an epic case of 'Fail' here.
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GEORDI: "Must've been that last torpedo." [...] "We've got a coolant leak, there's nothing we can do."

The problem happens as a consequence of the battle, but the movie offers no real explanation why the ship suddenly has an unfixable problem. Why can't Geordi fix it? Why not just eject the fricken warp core? Answers are not forthcoming.
What's funny about that is that in the very next movie, the solution to the Borg problem in Engineering is to puncture the coolant tanks.

Coolant leak? BAD.

Coolant explosion? Totally fine.
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I'm not saying Riker covers himself in glory here. The Federation's flagship getting its arse handed to it by a 20 year old bird of prey is humiliating. But in terms of his actual responses to the situation, I think what he does is fine. The damage comes from the fact that everything the Klingons fire at them are penetrating the shields and are making direct hits against the hull of the ship, not because of anything Riker specifically does wrong in a tactical sense.

I'll admit, given that remodulating the shield harmonics was a standard piece of Treknobabble by this point, it's a shame they didn't include a line to cover why the crew didn't at least try this. To be fair, the crew probably assumed the Klingons somehow knew their shield frequency and would have adjusted their weapons to match anyway, but still, it's something they should've tried.

So yeah. They're facing a ship which is smaller than they are, but which is firing stuff which is penetrating the shields, and which can move faster than they can. The whole battle scene is really an exercise in showing the hubris of assuming you're inherently superior simply because your in the Flagship and the enemy is flying a piece-of-s**t. It's a "David And Goliath" battle with the roles switched: the Klingons are David, and the Enterprise is Goliath.
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Re: Let's score how badly Riker did in Generations.

Of course one has to wonder why what you would think of a as a failsafe system (i.e the core ejection) failed. But the whole aim was to get rid of the Ent-D, of course perhaps some of this could have been mitigated if instead of a BoP they used say a Vor'cha class ship instead.
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