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Old June 29 2015, 04:13 AM   #1
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How should Neelix have left ship?

I saw a review of Homestead and the reviewer did not care for Neelix and felt Neelix deserved a far more ignoble (and perhaps violent) exit from the show:

http://sfdebris.com/videos/startrek/v969.php

Do you think Neelix deserved a happy ending? Do you like the way he exited the show? Should Neelix's exit have been different?
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Old June 29 2015, 04:26 AM   #2
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Re: How should Neelix have left ship?

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Old June 29 2015, 04:44 AM   #3
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Re: How should Neelix have left ship?

sfdebris' hate of Neelix is a running gag. But just imagine how much duller and blander the show would have been without him... and I say that as someone who thinks the VOY cast is pretty great.
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Old June 29 2015, 05:08 AM   #4
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Re: How should Neelix have left ship?

I don't think he should have left at all. There was no reason for his character to leave the ship. He had never once expressed a homesickness for Talax or Rinax and was adamantly looking forward to being in the Federation with the crew (for evidence, see his hallucination in "Bliss").

No, they should have kept him on. It would have made a great contrast to have him commenting on Federation life and being on the other side of the galaxy from his home like the Voyager crew had been since they met him.

Of course, that would have required a better-written final arc and finale.
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Old June 29 2015, 11:13 AM   #5
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Re: How should Neelix have left ship?

I was quite happy for him to find his fellow Talaxians including partner and stepson.

According to that what we know about the relaunch noves, it is even possible for him to visit the AQ one day.
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Old June 29 2015, 11:16 AM   #6
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Re: How should Neelix have left ship?

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There was no reason for his character to leave the ship.
Regular access to an eager vagina?

Neelix spent years convincing himself that he was a sexless, penis-lacking sweetie pie uncle figure. His role as primary care-giver to the dead-behind-the-eyes child known as Kes forced him into that belief.

Then after she left, his penis suddenly began remembering its function as a magnificent tool for embracing the immense pleasures of existence. This erotic awakening was further compounded by his sexually aggressive encounter with the Klingon woman. That was the final nail in the coffin of his forced, disingenuous, kindly uncle Neelix persona.

Then when Dexa provided an opportunity for him to fully embrace his true self, he took it. Good for him.

He got the ending he deserved. A life free from the tedious self inflicted prison that both he and Kes had jointly created then spent years trying to escape from.

They both succeeded (but she got old and died because Ocampan lifespan's are silly)
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Old June 29 2015, 11:19 AM   #7
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Re: How should Neelix have left ship?

But hux couldn't he have found love on Voyager and gone to live on Disney-earth and been happy?
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Old June 29 2015, 11:28 AM   #8
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Re: How should Neelix have left ship?

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Old June 29 2015, 11:31 AM   #9
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Re: How should Neelix have left ship?

Neelix and the rest of Voyager's crew survived the vengeance of Kes' older self.

With Dexa there are many little Neelixes possible. They have to secure the existence of the Talaxian people after all.

Naomix, Parix, Tuvix, Doctix, Troubadix, Oxylyn, Sevix, Sexka, Lexitay..... hux-ley
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Old June 29 2015, 11:57 AM   #10
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Re: How should Neelix have left ship?

Neelix shouldn't have left at all!

Both he and Kes should have been on the ship when they got back to Earth, Kes with a prolonged lifespan.

"Homestead" is one of the Voyager episode I never watched and because of the fact that Neelix is kicked out, I have no intention to watch it either.

Kilana2 wrote:
Neelix and the rest of Voyager's crew survived the vengeance of Kes' older self.

With Dexa there are many little Neelixes possible. They have to secure the existence of the Talaxian people after all.

Naomix, Parix, Tuvix, Doctix, Troubadix, Oxylyn, Sevix, Sexka, Lexitay..... hux-ley
Don't forget Kex!

As for Kes, that crazy old demon who they say visited the ship was not the real Kes.

The real Kes was brought back from her non-corporal existance by Q, given a human lifespan. Then she ended up on a Maquis ship which also had been brought to the Delta Quadrant. With their help she found her way to the Alpha Quadrant where she lives on a planet not so far from Bajor and sometimes participates in adventures on her own, like rescuing Janeway from space pirats and such.
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Old June 29 2015, 12:11 PM   #11
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Re: How should Neelix have left ship?

Sounds nicer than the things David Mack did with Kes in his MU stories.

On the other hand: it was just one Kes. There are myriads of Keses. Hopefully with a better fate than Mirror Kes.
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Old June 29 2015, 01:17 PM   #12
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Re: How should Neelix have left ship?

Was Mirror Kes a lesbian?
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Old June 29 2015, 01:44 PM   #13
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Was Mirror Kes a lesbian?

No. But she bore a striking resemblance to Stephen King's Carry
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Old June 29 2015, 01:58 PM   #14
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Re: How should Neelix have left ship?

That sounds rather like the episode that shall not be named.. only I assume there was blood.
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Old June 29 2015, 02:04 PM   #15
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That sounds rather like the episode that shall not be named.. only I assume there was blood.

All I can say is `Rise like Lions` by David Mack. Despite all the violence I felt for Kes. Mirror Neelix and Mirror Kes had to suffer a lot after all.....
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