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Old January 27 2015, 06:08 AM   #1
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Kate the Selfish?

Either let Q knock you up and get everyone home in 15 minutes or waste 5 more years of yours and your crew's life as well as doom several of your crew to die on meaningless away missions and avoidable battles over that time.
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Old January 27 2015, 06:21 AM   #2
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Re: Kate the Selfish?

It was definitely a less bad idea than to travel back in time thirty two years later and then inject herself with a deadly virus before being assimilated by the queen of the borg...and die!
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Old January 27 2015, 06:25 AM   #3
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Re: Kate the Selfish?

I have a really bad idea!

I have an even worse idea!

High 5!
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Old January 27 2015, 06:45 AM   #4
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Re: Kate the Selfish?

People keep speculating that. Boink him for the sake of the crew. She s right though. Who knows how sending them home would shift-it could be worse for some. And let's face it's Q isn't very straight forward. He keeps you spinning. I don't think she wanted to be a parent to an omnipotent hybrid. I certainly wouldn't. Go ahead call me selfish. I think it's sensible because I couldn't guarantee a great outcome shacking with a Q.

Maybe she is selfish but sometimes you got to do the right thing and adjust. Who's to say she didn't do them a favor? We can't see every conceivable outcome.
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Old January 27 2015, 06:46 AM   #5
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Re: Kate the Selfish?

plus he's just an icky prat
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Old January 27 2015, 07:25 AM   #6
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Re: Kate the Selfish?

No, not "Kate the selfish." She's "Kate gets to choose who she sleeps with and who she doesn't." Just because Q indecent proposal-ed her, doesn't make Q any less sleazy for doing so or in any way make her obligated to accept the offer.
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Old January 27 2015, 09:55 AM   #7
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Re: Kate the Selfish?

If Q is Omniscient, then he can see all multiple realities, therefore he did sleep with her, and saw himself sleep with her from infinite angles from infinite perspectives from every reality he did and did not sleep with her in.

Q is a fricking whelching hold out.

If Kathryn was a shellfish, then maybe an additional 70 percent of her body might have been reproductive organs, and hopefully more than an ounce of that would have been retrofitted libido.
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Old January 27 2015, 10:12 AM   #8
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Re: Kate the Selfish?

Simply put, Q tried to bribe Janeway, and it may have been a test of her moral principles.
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Old January 27 2015, 10:37 AM   #9
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Re: Kate the Selfish?

Lets lay this down exactly.

1. Deathwish. Q offers Earth in exchange with giving them Quinn, so that they can force him to live. Sex was not discussed?

2. The Q and the Grey. Q asks to Janeway to save the Q as a species/ to stop the civil war by mothering his child. She was told that with her (their) child that she can explore new dimensions. Earth was not offered, niether was quid pro quo?

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Please stop mushing it all up. Thank you.
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Old January 27 2015, 01:22 PM   #10
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Re: Kate the Selfish?

The REAL question that we will never know the answer to is if it had been revealed to her that doing it with Q was no more that touching fingers would she have done it?

I suspect Starfleet captains are told never to make a bargain with Q and it's on the same level as Omega secret orders. They just can't. But they will be tempted. But they mustn't and they can't.
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Old January 27 2015, 01:37 PM   #11
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Kathryn thought that Quinn was Q.

They didn't know shit.

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Old January 27 2015, 02:20 PM   #12
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But she wouldn't have gotten to keep that child. Q would have stolen it, corrupted it.. heck he wouldn't have to do anything. The child would have had a little phase of playing with mom like a kitten swatting at string and then he would have been off to his real world and only showed up once every few decades to be annoying. It would have sucked. No one wants to have a kid the chance of having any kind of real relationship with is slim to nothing. I've always said this is the core reason why she wouldn't consider it. She was wanted for some DNA and some babysitting and it would end at that.
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Old January 27 2015, 02:21 PM   #13
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Re: Kate the Selfish?

Guy Gardener wrote: View Post
Kathryn thought that Quinn was Q.

They didn't know shit.

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All sex is regrettable, but how many of your children do you regret?
All sex is regrettable?!
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Old January 27 2015, 02:22 PM   #14
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People who aren't having any always say that. It's normal.
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Old January 27 2015, 02:40 PM   #15
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I have a finite number of ejaculations.

The closer I get to my last discharge, the more I expect from each volley to tide me over in my twilight years.
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