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Doctor Who "Bigger on the inside..."

View Poll Results: Grade "Into the Dalek"
Eyebrows 34 28.57%
Good 57 47.90%
Average 19 15.97%
Bad 7 5.88%
Exterminate! 2 1.68%
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Old August 30 2014, 05:46 PM   #1
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8X02 "Into the Dalek" Grading/Discussion)(SPOILERS!)





A Dalek fleet surrounds a lone rebel ship, and only the Doctor can help them now… with the Doctor facing his greatest enemy, he needs Clara by his side.

Confronted with a decision that could change the Daleks forever he is forced to examine his conscience. Will he find the answer to the question, am I a good man?
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Old August 30 2014, 08:17 PM   #2
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Re: 8X02 "Into the Dalek" Grading/Discussion)(SPOILERS!)

Hum... Are we being bluffed and we have just seen the next companion ?
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Old August 30 2014, 08:21 PM   #3
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Re: 8X02 "Into the Dalek" Grading/Discussion)(SPOILERS!)

I was wondering if we had just seen the next companion?
Anyone else notice one second they were coved in slime the next second they were clean?
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Old August 30 2014, 08:23 PM   #4
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Re: 8X02 "Into the Dalek" Grading/Discussion)(SPOILERS!)

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Anyone else notice one second they were coved in slime the next second they were clean?
Yes and it was handily explained by the contamination cleaning tubes which were hot!

I rather liked that episode and 12 is growing on me.
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Old August 30 2014, 08:24 PM   #5
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Re: 8X02 "Into the Dalek" Grading/Discussion)(SPOILERS!)

So very average. Once again I was missing bits of dialogue. I really should have the subtitles on. So Clara's inside a dalek... again, and this time she's brought the Doctor and friends...

As for the story, the emotional beats and the narrative intent... Episode 1x06 Dalek did it all, so much better. So much so that this episode was recycling dialogue...

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Old August 30 2014, 08:29 PM   #6
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Well that was rather good. Properly hard Daleks a formidable enemy for the first time in a long time. might be the best Dalek episode since Dalek. I like Danny Pink and love that the Dalek didn't end up good, he just ended up hating Daleks instead of hating everything.

The soldiers vs Daleks felt v like classic Who.
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Old August 30 2014, 08:29 PM   #7
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Anyone else notice one second they were coved in slime the next second they were clean?
Yes and it was handily explained by the contamination cleaning tubes which were hot!

I rather liked that episode and 12 is growing on me.
Oh I was watching it on the laptop and it had to buffer at one point so I now know what I missed.
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Old August 30 2014, 08:36 PM   #8
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Re: 8X02 "Into the Dalek" Grading/Discussion)(SPOILERS!)

I might rank this up there with 9's Dalek episode.
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Old August 30 2014, 08:48 PM   #9
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Well that was rather good. Properly hard Daleks a formidable enemy for the first time in a long time. might be the best Dalek episode since Dalek. I like Danny Pink and love that the Dalek didn't end up good, he just ended up hating Daleks instead of hating everything.
I agree.

But I do have some question marks about the inside of the Dalek shell. Maybe I just didn't get it but, in the previous episodes we only saw the organic part with the eye and I assumed that it was also his brain.
In this episode we saw them walking through his body/brain and most of it didn't looked organic, so parts of his body/brain are connected to technology? It's somehow interconnected?
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Old August 30 2014, 08:53 PM   #10
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I rather liked it. While it DID feel like it was ripping Nine's Dalek story, I thought Capaldi still managed not to convey a multi-faceted performance of a guy who's worried that his hatred for the Daleks has overcome him and who doesn't even flinch when that Dalek calls him a "good Dalek" - contrasting Nine's quiet dissapointment - because he knows he's partly right.

Anyway, I loved the pace and the directing of the episode, visually arresting - difficult to do for a minimal, budget-wise, episode, or so I thought. The Pink character is, well, a bit weak, I thought - and the moment when he cries in the classroom was, well, awkward. Not sure what to think, but so far, not exactly impressed.

Overall, 8/10. Capaldi and Coleman sell once again, and I liked the idea of a potentially "good" Dalek. However, Pink's iffy.
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Old August 30 2014, 09:37 PM   #11
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Another enjoyable episode, finding Clara a bit annoying this season.

Is heaven being populated by people that have sacrificed themselves then, not those the Doctor has killed?

I hate the voice over guy on Doctor Who Extra.
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Old August 30 2014, 10:09 PM   #12
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The Pink character is, well, a bit weak, I thought - and the moment when he cries in the classroom was, well, awkward. Not sure what to think, but so far, not exactly impressed.

Pink's iffy.
Got to agree and hope they do a bit more with him before they let him in the tardis for the culmination of the "no solider" thing with the doctor. Having said that it felt a bit forced for him to be in the episode making it feel a bit like padding. So at the same time I hope they don't force him in again just to build him up before the culmination in the whole "no solider" thing with the doctor.,
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Old August 30 2014, 10:10 PM   #13
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Re: 8X02 "Into the Dalek" Grading/Discussion)(SPOILERS!)

Regarding the Daleks's synthesis of mutant and shell, the placement of it in the shell and the look of the mutant has changed several times in both series, sometimes due to using other genetic stock like humans (Parting of the Ways) or a larger mutant with the robot parts grafted into it (Rememberance of the Daleks). Dalek mutants have also on ocassion been given claws, as seen In The Daleks and again in Rememberance of the Daleks.


As far as how much the Dalek 'knows' from the machine, I think the Daleks are kind of 'conditioned' by the computers in their shells. (At least by the time of the Tom Baker era, which sort of retconned Daleks into being more like created robots than survivors of an apocalyptic war).
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Old August 30 2014, 10:37 PM   #14
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This is the only good Dalek story Moffat has ever done (not including TDOTD), in fact I bloody loved it. The series seems to be becoming more mature and darker, something which I jolly well love. This is certainly on par with many of the classic who episodes, probably on par with most of the RTD episodes and maybe even ahead of some of them. The premise of the episodes was a bit strange but it was executed perfectly. Plus I really liked Danny Pink, he was funny! Much better than that twat Rory.

So yes, if the rest of the Capaldi era is like this, I'm certainly very happy! He plays the Doctor so well.
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Old August 30 2014, 10:39 PM   #15
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I hate the voice over guy on Doctor Who Extra.
My god yeah, I know how you feel. I saw the one for Deep Breath and I couldn't focus because of that stupid voice. It's just awful.
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