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Old June 14 2015, 12:19 PM   #1
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New major alien civilization in Trek 3/XIII?

Justin Lin wrote:
It’s all new and fresh. The Klingons, Romulans and other species are great, but it’s time to go further. It has been fun to focus on creating whole new worlds and species.”
Does this mean we get a completely new alien race or even a whole new alien civilization in this movie? What do you expect? What would you like to see?
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Old June 14 2015, 12:28 PM   #2
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Re: New major alien civilization in Trek 3/XIII?

Hopefully CG aliens which aren't just humans with bumpy foreheads. Something like the green guys in John Carter would be fine by me.

And of course, a remix of the old "why weren't the Remans/Suliban/Xindi/whatever seen in TOS or TNG before?!?!?" fanrage.
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Old June 14 2015, 02:14 PM   #3
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Re: New major alien civilization in Trek 3/XIII?

Yeah. Enough with the humans. Give us real aliens....

...which the reboot has had a plenty of. So why not meet some of them?

I am really liking this.
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Old June 14 2015, 02:25 PM   #4
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Re: New major alien civilization in Trek 3/XIII?

Of course, movies which focus on a new alien species don't typically do well at the box office. The only such movies, Insurrection and Nemesis are the franchise's low point for box office results.

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And of course, a remix of the old "why weren't the Remans/Suliban/Xindi/whatever seen in TOS or TNG before?!?!?" fanrage.
Well, it is a pretty good point with the Remans, given their backstory as slave labour for the Romulans and they were apparently major players in the Dominion War.

Actually, there are a lot of unanswered questions with the Remans. Enterprise showed us that despite their status as slaves, they apparently can operate independently on Romulus and have the authority to arrest senators and high ranking military officers.
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Old June 14 2015, 06:25 PM   #5
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Re: New major alien civilization in Trek 3/XIII?

I would love a new species and culture, but I can't help wonder if going a familiar name would be easier for people. Klingons and Romulans are names non-fans are also familiar with, and would help with selling it to a wider audiance.

But yes, personally, I would love something new. Especially with modern cg technology, creating alien enviroments could give us something completely new and fresh.
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Old June 14 2015, 08:46 PM   #6
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Re: New major alien civilization in Trek 3/XIII?

This is encouraging news, especially right after going with Khan.


Initially, I was hoping for a Klingon-Doomsday Machine angle, but I'm happy to hear they're going back "out there."


The new species will be accepted and well-received if it's done well. If not, it won't.
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Old June 14 2015, 08:53 PM   #7
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Re: New major alien civilization in Trek 3/XIII?

King Daniel Into Darkness wrote: View Post
Hopefully CG aliens which aren't just humans with bumpy foreheads. Something like the green guys in John Carter would be fine by me.

+1


With the available tech and now the budget, give us something cool and different.


No Baku-types.
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Old June 14 2015, 10:02 PM   #8
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Re: New major alien civilization in Trek 3/XIII?

A Kelvin, in their natural form?
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Old June 15 2015, 07:15 AM   #9
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Re: New major alien civilization in Trek 3/XIII?

I'm thinking the Klingons will be the antagonists in "Beyond", any new race will probably be something like the Organians, Capellans, etc. - folks that our heroes are trying to protect from the Klingons.
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Old June 15 2015, 07:21 AM   #10
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Re: New major alien civilization in Trek 3/XIII?

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I'm thinking the Klingons will be the antagonists in "Beyond", any new race will probably be something like the Organians, Capellans, etc. - folks that our heroes are trying to protect from the Klingons.
This is just completely wishful thinking, but I'd love if it we had a new species that was large, powerful, monstrous, that could only be done via CGI -- and yet they'd be relatively peaceful, just to subvert the trope of "inhuman = evil." But then they'd be the species that needs protection from the Klingons, since a Klingon killing one of them in battle is seen as a major feat as befits Klingon skill and strength, like a hunter in Africa killing a defenseless elephant. So the Klingons treat killing them off as sport. That's where our heroes come in.
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Old June 15 2015, 06:14 PM   #11
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Re: New major alien civilization in Trek 3/XIII?

T'Girl wrote: View Post
A Kelvin, in their natural form?
I hope they show 0514 different Kelvins.

(P.S. You meant "Kelvan.")
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Old June 16 2015, 02:01 AM   #12
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Re: New major alien civilization in Trek 3/XIII?

I either want:


-a primitive but beautiful species of innocent beings ala Avatar, or....

-a highly developed species with technology that wows Our Heroes.


and their homeworld explored in rich detail.


And a gigantic natural space phenomenon like a supernova or mega-comet would be appreciated.


Make deep space feel strange, dangerous, and vast.
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Old June 16 2015, 02:26 AM   #13
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Re: New major alien civilization in Trek 3/XIII?

Or perhaps the Tzenkethi. Whilst they've been mentioned, we still haven't seen them.
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Old June 16 2015, 05:18 AM   #14
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Re: New major alien civilization in Trek 3/XIII?

This is an opportunity for some very strange mo-cap aliens. But more important is interesting culture, and even more important than that is interesting new characters. Hopefully we'll get all three.

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Actually, there are a lot of unanswered questions with the Remans. Enterprise showed us that despite their status as slaves, they apparently can operate independently on Romulus and have the authority to arrest senators and high ranking military officers.
Wow, I'm an ENT fan and I don't remember that at all. IIRC, there were a couple of Remans in the background during the Andorian arc, but they had no lines and did nothing important.
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Old June 16 2015, 05:34 AM   #15
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Re: New major alien civilization in Trek 3/XIII?

Agreed that interesting new alien characters is probably the most important thing. To that end, I'd actually like to see less fleshing out or developing of an entire culture with much exposition or great detail that could bog down the story.

I keep thinking of the way TOS viewers were first introduced to the Romulans in "Balance of Terror". A totally new alien race and culture, but the focus was on just a few strong characters, especially Mark Lenard's commander. Aliens done like that would be nice, either as an ally or foe.

Make them compelling, don't overdo them, and remember that in Trek, more often than not the aliens are created to be some sort of reflection of a part of the human condition for our heroes to deal with and maybe learn from.
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