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Star Trek Movies XI+ Discuss J.J. Abrams' rebooted Star Trek here.

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Old February 9 2015, 12:16 AM   #1
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Should Abrams Have Done A Clean Reboot

I think he should have. I know he was supposedly trying to honor what came before but ST09 seemed to really attempt to wipe out what came before and build on the bones of the original. I would have preferred them to never mention TOS and just reboot and have it a stand alone universe. To me the crappiness of the NuTrek universe just seeps into the old one and having Prime Spock stuck in the Nutrek universe makes it even more sad. Discuss.
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Old February 9 2015, 12:24 AM   #2
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Re: Should Abrams Have Done A Clean Reboot

Yes. No. Maybe. I really don't know?

I think it was a no-win scenario for him either way.
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Old February 9 2015, 12:51 AM   #3
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Re: Should Abrams Have Done A Clean Reboot

Same result either way, so it really makes no difference.
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Old February 9 2015, 12:56 AM   #4
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Re: Should Abrams Have Done A Clean Reboot

it was a reboot wasn't it? (by way of a sequel)
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Old February 9 2015, 01:26 AM   #5
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Re: Should Abrams Have Done A Clean Reboot

Everything looked rather clean to me, sparkling shiney clean in fact.
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Old February 9 2015, 01:41 AM   #6
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Re: Should Abrams Have Done A Clean Reboot

It's always nice to see Leonard Nimoy again, but these films would have worked just as well as a total flat-out reboot.

Worked with BSG, didn't it?
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Old February 9 2015, 01:50 AM   #7
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Re: Should Abrams Have Done A Clean Reboot

Khan 2.0 wrote: View Post
it was a reboot wasn't it? (by way of a sequel)
Not a reboot as far as starting over, from scratch. They used the old universe as a jumping off point.

Kind of a re-continuation.
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Old February 9 2015, 02:39 AM   #8
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Re: Should Abrams Have Done A Clean Reboot

Mr. Laser Beam wrote: View Post
It's always nice to see Leonard Nimoy again, but these films would have worked just as well as a total flat-out reboot.

Worked with BSG, didn't it?
You could still had Nimoy from an alternate reality, but no Spock in 2. Enough Deus Ex Machina.
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Old February 9 2015, 02:56 AM   #9
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Khan 2.0 wrote: View Post
it was a reboot wasn't it? (by way of a sequel)
It's a reboot with a time-travel fig leaf.
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Old February 9 2015, 03:34 AM   #10
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Re: Should Abrams Have Done A Clean Reboot

Yep.
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Old February 9 2015, 12:58 PM   #11
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Re: Should Abrams Have Done A Clean Reboot

In answer to the clean reboot, no. IMO having Spock Prime present added value to both movies.

BSG was a clean reboot, which grew when Richard Hatch returned albeit in a different role, so I guess one CAN have their cake and eat it too.
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Old February 9 2015, 03:05 PM   #12
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I never thought Hatch brought much as an actor to nuBSG.
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Old February 9 2015, 03:09 PM   #13
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Meh, he was alright.
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Old February 9 2015, 04:19 PM   #14
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Greg Cox wrote: View Post
Khan 2.0 wrote: View Post
it was a reboot wasn't it? (by way of a sequel)
It's a reboot with a time-travel fig leaf.
This. Spock Prime just gets to hang out and dispense advice.
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Old February 9 2015, 04:26 PM   #15
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Re: Should Abrams Have Done A Clean Reboot

I loved how they did this "in-universe" time travel reboot. A very cool concept.
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