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Old August 3 2014, 08:38 PM   #1
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No Kill I

In he Devil in the Dark, the episode begins by hunting a creature that is killing miners on Janus VI. It's all pretty straightforward...but it seems to me that this should have been a game-changer (or at least more so than it was):



At this point, this creature was revealed to be intelligent and communicative. I realize it's a Next Generation term, but shouldn't this have become a first contact situation? They're no longer "hunting a tiger", so to speak. The dimensions and implications of 'No Kill I' speaks to a much more complicated situation. I don't recall that being addressed. Doesn't the Prime Directive forbid informing the indigenous ones of life on other worlds, space travel, etc.?
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Old August 3 2014, 08:42 PM   #2
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She was already aware of strange visitors from another planet when the miners reached her territory. She may not have been aware of their origin, but she knew they were hostile from her perspective. Contamination already existed.
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Old August 3 2014, 09:45 PM   #3
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The Horta also took the pump from the mining colony's reactor—"delicately" removing it without severely damaging the rest of the unit. I'd say that's so sophisticated the Horta may already be aware of life on other planets. Perhaps the Horta also have a sophisticated civilization with technology—not that we'd recognize it. Considering their composition, they might not have the need for artificial radios, computers and such devices—they may be able to do it natively. I'd say the Horta are already ahead of the Federation on many counts.
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Old August 3 2014, 10:10 PM   #4
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It's somewhat surprising that the miners were allowed to stay, given the prime directive. While intelligent, the Hortas are obviously non-technological beings who lack warp drive.

Unless the PD doesn't apply to the miners.

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Old August 3 2014, 10:12 PM   #5
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Worked out a deal with the Horta.
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Old August 4 2014, 12:14 AM   #6
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Re: No Kill I

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The Horta also took the pump from the mining colony's reactor—"delicately" removing it without severely damaging the rest of the unit. I'd say that's so sophisticated the Horta may already be aware of life on other planets. Perhaps the Horta also have a sophisticated civilization with technology—not that we'd recognize it. Considering their composition, they might not have the need for artificial radios, computers and such devices—they may be able to do it natively. I'd say the Horta are already ahead of the Federation on many counts.
That's exactly what I was curious about.

I, too, was left with the impression that the Horta had a grasp of advanced ideas...but oddly, I don't think it's really implied in the episode. Intelligent and knowledgeable aren't quite the same. Spock spoke well of the Horta at the end, based on his 'exchange' with her. But earlier in the episode, it was unknown whether the Horta was on the level of, say, the Metrons, or Jojo Krako.
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Old August 4 2014, 12:21 AM   #7
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LMFAOschwarz wrote: View Post
it was unknown whether the Horta was on the level of, say, the Metrons, or Jojo Krako.
"Say, that's a nice reactor you got there. It'd be terrible if something were to happen to it."

Horta protection fees.
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Old August 4 2014, 12:24 AM   #8
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it was unknown whether the Horta was on the level of, say, the Metrons, or Jojo Krako.
"Say, that's a nice reactor you got there. It'd be terrible if something were to happen to it."

Horta protection fees.
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Old August 4 2014, 12:31 AM   #9
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Re: No Kill I

I think it's safe to say that the Horta was extremely intelligent. Or, to put it another way: Hortas rock.
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Old August 4 2014, 12:41 AM   #10
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Mr. Laser Beam wrote: View Post
I think it's safe to say that the Horta was extremely intelligent. Or, to put it another way: Hortas rock.
Yeah...but who rocks more? The Horta, or the Excalbian?

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Old August 4 2014, 01:50 AM   #11
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A few of the novels actually have Hortas that are serving in Starfleet, with at least one serving on the Enterprise.
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Old August 4 2014, 01:51 AM   #12
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I know its appearance has been compared to everything from pizza to lasagna, but the Horta always reminded me of my mom's tomato meatloaf.

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Old August 4 2014, 05:41 AM   #13
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A few of the novels actually have Hortas that are serving in Starfleet, with at least one serving on the Enterprise.
Ensign Naraht, or as Ael (one of the Romulans) called him, "Ensign Rock."
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Old August 4 2014, 05:44 AM   #14
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Re: No Kill I

Metryq wrote: View Post
LMFAOschwarz wrote: View Post
it was unknown whether the Horta was on the level of, say, the Metrons, or Jojo Krako.
"Say, that's a nice reactor you got there. It'd be terrible if something were to happen to it."

Horta protection fees.
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it was unknown whether the Horta was on the level of, say, the Metrons, or Jojo Krako.
"Say, that's a nice reactor you got there. It'd be terrible if something were to happen to it."

Horta protection fees.
I can imagine the Horta, with a Chicago accent, saying that....
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Old August 4 2014, 05:48 AM   #15
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Re: No Kill I

I liked Ensign Naraht in the novels and comics. I also seem to recall a fan ship that was called "USS NO KILL I" that was basically a giant rock with a warp core and nacelles on it for an entirely Horta crew as a full member of the Federation.
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