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Old July 31 2014, 09:26 AM   #61
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Re: Picard's age:

Various novels obviously mention various assignments, too, although Memory Beta only name-drops the Antares from Simon Hawke's Blaze of Glory, and Diane Duane's Intellivore indicates the Pathfinder as another early ship. The novel continuity is biased by JM Friedman's storyline where Picard spends almost his entire career aboard the Stargazer, though.

As far as starship commanders in TNG go, a character acted by Patrick Stewart isn't out of place in terms of age. We saw few young COs, although admittedly we generally failed to see the COs of small ships, a couple of Mirandas notwithstanding. But we could assume that 24th century medicine puts aging on hold at middle age, not at youth (or else we would have much more of young characters overall); somebody looking like Stewart in his fifties and sixties might plausibly be anything from 40 to 80 and perhaps beyond.

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Old July 31 2014, 12:57 PM   #62
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More seasoned, to command the Enterprise by the time of TNG, yes.
Seasoned? That's a horrible thing to say to a man...
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Old July 31 2014, 02:37 PM   #63
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^ Or a steak.
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Old July 31 2014, 02:53 PM   #64
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^ Or a steak.
There's a lot at steak here...
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Old July 31 2014, 04:03 PM   #65
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Ah so there's his age. Figured he was an old experienced captain, in his fifties by the time we saw TNG's first ep.
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Old July 31 2014, 05:12 PM   #66
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Re: Picard's age:

He's Explicitly said to have been in his 20s when commanding Stargazer, and that was 30+ years before "TNG: Encounter At Farpoint".

We never learnt much about the intervening years or whether he actually commanded any ships on extended missions in-between those assignments, but I always figured there might have been some degree of shore based duty following the loss of Stargazer but before they gave him the keys to a new ship again.
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Old July 31 2014, 06:09 PM   #67
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He's Explicitly said to have been in his 20s when commanding Stargazer, and that was 30+ years before "TNG: Encounter At Farpoint".

We never learnt much about the intervening years or whether he actually commanded any ships on extended missions in-between those assignments, but I always figured there might have been some degree of shore based duty following the loss of Stargazer but before they gave him the keys to a new ship again.
Thirty plus years is a very long time! It's long enough to be the captain of five or six consecutive ships... It's hard to believe that after such a long time doing nothing, they gave him the command of the most advanced ship in star fleet. That wouldn't make much sense.
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Old July 31 2014, 06:11 PM   #68
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^ The Buried Age does explain that, IIRC.
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Old July 31 2014, 07:12 PM   #69
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I imagine Geordi lives there (On Mars) with her & their family, ...
Mars ain't the kind of place to raise your kids.




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Old July 31 2014, 07:43 PM   #70
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I imagine Geordi lives there (On Mars) with her & their family, ...
Mars ain't the kind of place to raise your kids.




By then they had a breathable atmosphere on Mars. It was almost the case already during Archer's time.
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Old July 31 2014, 08:30 PM   #71
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By then they had a breathable atmosphere on Mars. It was almost the case already during Archer's time.
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Old July 31 2014, 09:00 PM   #72
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He's Explicitly said to have been in his 20s when commanding Stargazer
Umm, no. Nothing of the sort is ever said in Star Trek. Indeed, every detail about Picard's service aboard the Stargazer comes from the 2350s, just before the loss of the ship, or is lacking a timestamp altogether.

That's the confusing thing in these discussions: the story about Picard taking control of the bridge of the ship after the CO was incapacitated is confirmed but not timestamped ("Tapestry"), and the idea that he immediately became CO himself is not part of the Trek canon at all, yet the two concepts often become confused and quoted for fact.

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Old July 31 2014, 09:31 PM   #73
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^ Or a steak.
*Groan* Way to miss the joke, Mr LB...
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Old July 31 2014, 09:53 PM   #74
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What he said was; "The first vessel I ever served on as captain was called the Stargazer."
Ah, you're right; blindly relying on transcripts doesn't pay, it seems. (Unless they are from the great "Chrissie's" site, which was down when I checked.)

To make that distinction would not be particularly logical unless Picard wanted to make clear that he had served aboard other ships in the previous stages of his career...

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I haven't seen it myself, but apparently the extended version of "The Measure of a Man" says that Picard served aboard a USS Reliant as an ensign.
The USS. Reliant was originally going to be a Constitution.
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Old July 31 2014, 10:19 PM   #75
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I imagine Geordi lives there (On Mars) with her & their family, ...
Mars ain't the kind of place to raise your kids.




In fact, it's cold as hell.
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